Livingstonia Synod clarify stand on North Malawi independence

CCAP Livingstonia synod has  clarified that it is not championing secessionof northern region to be a standalone country  , saying “it is totally against the church ideology of preaching peace and unity.”

The Synod’s top authorities including newly elected Moderator, Reverend Douglas Chipofya, General Secretary, Reverend Levi Nyondo and Deputy General Secretary told Presidential Advisor on National Unity and Parliamentary Affairs, Symon Vuwa  Kaunda that the church is surprised with those advocating for secession as they have never consulted the local masses and relevant institutions  on the matter.

Rev Nyondo:  federalism should be a national initiative

Rev Nyondo: federalism should be a national initiative

They made their stand  at the Synod offices in the northern city of Mzuzu when Kaunda visited the authorities to offered the congratulatory message from President Peter Muntharika  on the over  synod’s election  new office bearers.

“As the Synod we are surprised with those campaigning for that because they have never consulted us as representatives of the people or even people on the ground, they neither talked about it during their campaign but are bringing the issue now ?” questioned the Synod Moderator Reverend Chipofya.

He said the Synod perceive  secession or Federalism  campaign as a cause for conflict in the church  as the synod has its branches even in the Central region hence the fears that the system would create enemity among faithful from the two regions.

The Synod Moderator further claimed that the Synod did not even discussed the agenda at the general assembly because it  has not been consulted by those advocating for the federal system, and that it is theologically having negative attitude on the matter.

Reverend Chipofya who is also the Spiritual father for the Synod said the role of the church is to complement Jesus mission of preaching peace and unity to the nation, hence it will never support any initiative that would bring differences among Malawians.

“As the Synod we have no time to discuss or advocate for things that are in conflict with our ideologies hence our stand on calls for federalism is ‘No’ because we don’t want to fall short before Christ,” he said.

The Synod further, commended Mutharika for preaching peace and unity, which it says is a milestone to meaningful development for any country, citing the appointment of an advisor on National Unity as a major indicator of the President’s commitment to promote unity in the country.

“We have seen how your office has been promoting contact and dialogue among various stakeholders, and that is really recommendable by the church, and we hope the President will continue promoting this until we all get united and become one Malawian.”

In his remarks, Kaunda thanked the Synod for complementing Mutharika’s efforts to promote unity, by stating its independent stand on federalism among other things.

“The President has clearly indicated that he is going to work hand in hand with the Church to ensure that his mission on peace and unity is fulfilled and is very happy with the support given by the Synod on the initiative and other development spheres.

“He believes that the church being a strong agent of change can easily help him achieve his goal since it is the pillar of all Malawians,” Kaunda said.

The push for federalism, being championed by a number of groups and politicians,  has also seen Karonga youths planning pro-federalism demonstrations to take place at the end of this month.

Synod general secretary Reverend Levi Nyondo said federalism has to be a national initiative.

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107 thoughts on “Livingstonia Synod clarify stand on North Malawi independence”

  1. Gona Mkulawe says:

    Tamangodikirani zomwe akukuchitirani kodi ndi district iti yomwe iliyotsogola pachitukuko kupatula cities?

  2. Dawira Waka Dawira says:

    Point of correction, the Moderator is out of order to pressume that the Synod should be consulted of issues affecting their members. Am sorry but this is the worst bullshit I’ve ever heard from a church of good repute. Wake up from your slumber coz national issues are individual concerns and nobody or no iinstitution can make a decision on behalf of a bonafide citizen. I thought the north had people of high IQ? Nanga mmalo moti mbuzi ya moderator iyi izingodya nsipu, ikulowera nkhani zokhuza anthu. Mpake kulankhula ndowe izi. Am ashamed with Livingstonia Synod.

    1. Kaya says:

      Mr speaker sir, do not judge anymore coz. James 4:11 said; stop speaking against one another, brother. ………………………………………………..I mean continue nee.

  3. Avuwa dyera mutipweteketsa n don’t think kuti mpoto ndiye synod yonkha ayi nawo alevi khwinthi ndi dyera musiye mutipweteketsa muwasiyire anzanu anzeru anthane nazo osamango dumpira chifukwa chabwanya ranulo

  4. Chagweb says:

    One thing that excites me is clear that the north has brilliant ideas on how to fast track national development through feudelism. It makes sense. Look at South Africa Tanzania among many in the world. It does not mean pple in south go back north neither does it mean tennants in RumphI going back to Mulanje. They will stay where they are and registered as such. Wake up…Malawi

  5. luvinda gama. says:

    I am disappointed with the livingstonia church remarks.what type of government is the ccap church?you can not belong to God if you love money so much.

  6. Quota system says:

    The other day, the synod said federalism has to be approached as a national issue, not regional. What did they mean. Of course no to secession but federal system of government yes

  7. YAKASHATA says:

    Nepotism was started by people from the North and Kamuzu was the first person to realize this. The northerners are crying because they lost May polls. What would happen if pp anawina ma polls ? Leave them crying I think this will stop after one year buy then they will accept APM is their president. PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THAT PEOPLE FROM THE NORTH ARE ALWAYS SELFISH.

    1. You Are Crier says:

      The person who is crying loudest is Peter Muthalika who has dispatched his chola boy Vuwa Kaunda with millions to buy silence of chiefs and the clergy in the north. Can’t you see that???? The next person who is in never ending tears is you. You are losing sleep over this minority, yet extremely brave group of people.

  8. Chilungamo Chimawawa says:

    anthu amulungu adyetsedwa mabanzi ndi DPP govt!

  9. Matata says:

    I mostly support federal system. wake up guys with this motion do not leave this issue to the northerners. let’s tacle together we had some places in south and central remain underdeveloped. then now we must support because every region will have its own budget. eg SA and NIGERIA

  10. A Phiri says:

    nanunso aku mangochi kagwereni uko. nthawi ya a chair bwanji simunabweretse federalism. mumagona eti. the man of God is right. small place like mpoto will suffer heavily.

    divided we fall, united we conqueror. unity is strong weapon than federation.example you have seen or heard about scotland still remains as united kingdom.

    1. Odala Tili Odala says:

      Federalism and independence are two different things! Scotland issue is of independence while the issue here is federalism! Make research first before you comment

  11. Odala Tili Odala says:

    Why is this issue misrepresented? There are no calls from the beloved north for indipendence,bt federalism

    why is the government busy shutting peoples mouths? You dont fight ideas with weapons but with another more bright idea! The fact that you are fighting an idea with money and threat means the idea being fought against is noble!

    I am from mangochi but has a full support for the idea based on the following facts:
    1)development is nt for charity but it is a right;make a research on social services infrastructures in the north about 73 % of them are under the missions or the churches,where has been the govt in this picture?

    2)How many tar mac roads are in the north in comparison with other regions,even the on same road robots were introduced just recently in the north city of mzuzu

    3)look at the so called mzuzu stadium,is it a community ground or a stadium,teach me on that?

    4)look at buildings,the tallest one has beem the bazaar house,the indians’

    5)The church should not say of unity and yet pervese the same,the bible says “unify them in truth” John 17 :17…is ignoring one region over the other based on tribal and other difèrences in the same tune as the bible truth of unity? Educate me may be its my ignorance!

    6)I undestand the north cöntributes with a good percentage in the national workforce and are taxed too for development purposes,and you find the development is isolatively distributed,is it not stealing from the northerner tax payer? And here you say unity of christ…does your lord jesus promote stealing spirit in the name of unity?

    7)who said federalism is the disunity of a nation? I take united states of america as an example, is it disunified? What about south africa and nigeria?

    in summery of my argument to those who fight the issue,i say they have a right to do so,but not by threatening those who are pro the issue! Let us debate this with sober minds!

  12. SATANA AKULAMULILA AZIBUSA AWA:::::::::::: INU AZIBUSA BASI VUWA WAKUGULANI, INU MAFUMU VUWA WAKUBELEKANI ::::::: ZACHISONI ANTHU A MULUNGU NDI MAFUMU ADYELA.
    AZIBUSA: TAMVERANI IZI FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SIKUGAWA MAALAWI AI KOMA KUKHALA BOMA LA SETULO PA NCHITO , ZITUKUKO, NDI PHAMVU LIMAKHALA NDI MA PULOVIDESI, NGATI KU ETHOPIA NDI MAIKO ENA MU AFRICA MUNO.ILI LA BWINO PA MA DEVELOPMENTS, MWAVA AZIBUSA NDI MAFUMU.

    KOMA SECESSION . INDEPENDENCE, STANDALONE, NDIYE KUGAWA MALAWI ILI SILABWINO AYI, ZAMBIRI ZIMASOKONEKERA, NDILOIPA A BALE MWAVA.MAFUMU NDI AZIBUSA WAONA KUSIYANA KWAKE.

  13. mopia says:

    Nepotism is a universal problem. Even people in the North practice nepotism as it is the case in the Centre and South. They do not only discriminate against those who comes from other region than theirs but even those are hired from the same region insofar they are not related to them. So what some misguided Northerners like Hon. Christopher Mzomera Ngwira is advocating is baseless and dangerous.

  14. Gameover says:

    Ok as men of God you preach peace and unity so what about nepotism what is your stand on the nepetism that is being practiced by the current Gvt
    Money at work even men of God they cant stand God will punish you

  15. Akupasani ndalama eti?mchifukwa mukufuna kusokoneza kut pasakhale federal system of government,anthu achipha maso inu,ooneka opemphera koma muli asatana,wina afune wina asafune ife eni dziko tikut pakhale federal system of government coz ka ntundu ka a mutharika ka nkokondera kakakhala lut kakuyendesa boma

  16. Hehehehehehehe chifukwa choti Livingstonia mission sinayankhe zokukomerani ndiye mwati adya ndalama,kapenanso sakuyimira zofuna za anthu aku mpoto.?koma akanavomereza ndiye bwenzi mukumati boma likudana ndi zofuna za Mulungu,hahahahaha ndakumverani chisoni kwambiri,kuzikonda too much.

  17. akomanaza says:

    synod should not fool us ,see rumphi sec. Selection really unfair.we need our own children enrolled in northern schools,all teachers,lectures,doctors,nurses etc from north abwere Ku kaya.lake Malawi conflict tisova tokha. Achewa onse azipita kwawo .tinyumba Tawo agumule mu katoto

  18. Mtumbo Lende says:

    Synod ya usiru ngati iyi palibeso

  19. Truth says:

    Ndatuluka Livingstonia synod.Yalowa zibwana.MULUNGU SI LIVINGSTONE.

  20. Do not be foolish says:

    It is time for engaging each other on how to move this country forward. We voted a government in place.Our president is Professor Arthur Peter Mutharika of DPP worn the first Past the post elections PERIOD.

    Mfundisi Mzomera Ngwira , Kamulepo Karua ,Plus Joyce Banda and Alevi wa DADA CHakwera Must accept and learn to wait for their turn in 2019 if they have a muscle to win.

    This country is getting ove-rpopulated right before your eyes and we need to get into programmes that can avert the tragedy. What you are proposing may onlyworsen what we see on the grounds to just please you polititians and your northern lads pockets.

    y the way who will be your senator to be Governor should your whim succeed- Chihana, Kamulepo, Kamuzu Chiwambo, Raphael Kasambara Khumbo Kachale Mwenefumbo. Can you start firsyt to build a strong platform for the noise you are making

  21. KUKHALA says:

    WHO SYNOD OR VUWA , THE CCAP DOES NOT REPRESENT NORTH SINCE ITS NOT THE ONLY CHURCH THEREIN. CCAP OF LIVINGSTONIA’S OPINION IS WELCOME BUT DOES NOT COVER NORTHERNERS . REFEREDUM IS THE ONLY SOLUTION TO THIS ISSUE. MY ADVICE HERE IS THAT WE SHOULD NOT RUSH BUT MAKE FIRST APPROPRIATE CIVIC EDUCATION ON PROPOSED CHANGES TO NEW FORMS OF GOVERNMENT(S) IN MALAWI.

  22. Zeze says:

    Imwe walisya wachinyengo ilyani waka tundalama uto wamupani but do not comment on our behalf the people of the north or indeed on behalf of the synod if the issue has not been discussed. Walisya wamtundu uli wakubwebwetuka waka chilichose, mwatikhozga soni chomene!

  23. wakukayawakukaya says:

    Becareful with ur comments the synod.U might statt losing members.

  24. wakukayawakukaya says:

    The issue is money here.Becareful men of God mudzachita za Judas.

  25. Mbujey says:

    One malawi one pple

  26. Yobe boo says:

    Rev Chipofya, Our Synod Moderator, I am so a shamed having you for two solid years as our Moderator and not fit to be called the Spiritual Father of the this mighty Synod. Umo mwayowoyera apa mwaoneska pakweru kuchepa zeru kwinu dada. Ndipo I do not think mutovwirenge. You are a disappointing presence this time around.

    Ine ngati mulongozgi munyinu, elder, mwatikhozga soni chomeni. This guys came to our Synod meeting, and briefed us on the issue of Federalism, and today because of Vuwa, whether we say because of Money he brought you, you speak nonsense here. As a leader we expect, you are completely offline in your speech. Where , as Synod did we send you to say this? And if we have not discussed this, on whose behalf are you commenting? Mind you, Badada, this is a very sensitive issue, hence commenting on monetory motifs against the wishes of the Northern masses, will difinetly portray a very bad image on the church.

    As synod we have been complaining a lot on issues of poor governance with DPP, and what you say today totally betrays the integrity of this church. Can’t you see how the Rev Dr Nyasulu has led the church all this time? He could not give such rubbish comments . And if you think you can drive the synod into a different direction, you personally think during your term of office, you will end in regret.

    Kweni mu unenesko wose, napamaso pa Chiuta, uyo wakutisanda na mitima yithu mkati, mwatikhozga soni, nanga wuli mwabwebweta maghanoghano ghinu mwekha, changuwa chiwemi nthena mwanguleka waka na kuyowoyapo. SHAME !!!!!!

    1. kanchenga says:

      I have always said you tumbukas are a confused group of people. Why is it very difficult for you to speak with one voice. How does this man of GOD feel preaching of love to pupils who passed their exams very well but failed to proceed to secondary school because they were born from a certain part of a country. Is it really difficult to feel the pain of others just because of money. Why did you opt to save God. I am a Chewa and I have always wished the chewas had their own country where they would either manage or mismanage their own affairs educated or not. But what does education do to a Tumbuka? Makes him a social coward who thinks the north can’t stand alone. It has engraved in him a dump, a mum, Adam Adam eat the apple and be wise like eve and don’t fail simple geography. Question like the original man . GOD asked Adam where are you and he answers I am naked? Why not say I am in the bush. This what you man of God is saying. We are United when members of your congregation are failing to go to school. Shaa…. This mumu eat the apple you monkey lizard.

  27. Federalist says:

    Fellow Nyasatimers, the last sentence summarises the discussions between Synod and Peter’s messenger:

    ……”Rev Nyondo said federalism has to be a national initiative”.

    To me, this says a lot about the actual stand of the Clerics. Anthuwatu amafunika kuwachta study mwachifatse zoyankhula zawo.

  28. Devils Advocate says:

    Ministry Headquarters to become Federal Ministry Hq, basically we are talking about what the President already hinted!! Devolution of Power to Regions!! Power to decide on Development Projects to be Funded in each region by the People through their Parliamentarians in the Regional Parliament/assembly!!!

  29. Kamwanakamchitete says:

    I think Rev. Chipofya’s eyes and ears are beginning to close or to some extent already closed. Can’t you see? hear? Ask Malawians first before you get ashamed. I commend Rev Nyondo’s remarks that it should be national inatiative because he is not sure of what malawians out there are thinking. Mind your speech. You are holding a leading lump. Malawians will not honour such characters.

  30. Kamwanakamchitete says:

    I think Rev. Chipofya’s eyes and ears are beginning to close or to some extent already closed. Can’gt you see? hear? Ask Malawians first before you get ashamed. I commend Rev Nyondo’s remarks that it should be national inatiative because he is not sure of what malawians out there are thinking. Mind your speech. You are holding a leading lump. Malawians will not honour such characters.

  31. simiao banduras says:

    Livingstonia synod don’t fool us here , inu ndiye munayamba kale kale za federalism as noted from long standoff with Nkhoma synod. Don’t even bother to comment because you have pocketed fat envelopes from Vuwa Kaunda, fotsekiiii.

  32. Noel Yohane says:

    Koma ngati synod mukuyankhula kuchokera pansi pamtima wanu Mulungu akudalitseni, koma ngati mwameza kena kake shame on you and let God punish you mowonjezera. For your own information this issue is for Maalawians not synod, so let Malawians judge.

    1. Mzuzu CCAP Member says:

      Ameza kumene kaya. Tawelengani last sentence ya article iyi.

  33. KONDWANI NYASULU says:

    IFE SITIMVA ZIMEZO, KALULU ANAMVA MAU OYAMBA. ATUMBUKA NONSE KWANU KUMPOTO.TIKUSAMUSANI KUNO KUMWERA. KHAYA MUNAMANGA NYUMBA ZOVUTA KUNO ZANU ZIMENEZO KOMA IKAKWANA MTHAWIYO MUZIWANSO TAKUPILIRANI NTHAWI YAYITALI NDIYE APA MWATIPATSA METER MWAYAMBISA NOKHA

    1. mwiza says:

      Anyasulu tikumenyani chabe, mulinenso Mphamvu koma matama thoo! Atumbika a kwamanu. Infe kumpoto fedalism basi.

    2. Mzuzu CCAP Member says:

      Nkhani ili apa ndiyakuti Vuwa Kaunda, messenger wa chikwama cha Peter anakawonana ndi akuluakulu a Synod. Iweyo, yimba mlandu amene akumapitisa chikwama kwa atsogoleli a kumpotoko. Muwuze Peter asiye kuwanyengelera a tumbukawo. Ndipo iwe ndi anzako muzifunse kuti kodi Muthalika chifukwa chiyani akukuyalusani anthuni powanyengelera atsogoleri a ku north? the ball is in your court my friend.

  34. chidumayo says:

    Please understand this is not war. Kamuzu also said that multiparty is war, where is the war now, haven’t you realised your rights because of multiparty? Go north go and the boundary should be Ntcheu or Lilongwe not Jenda or Nkhatabay.

  35. KODI NDIYE KUTI NORTHERN REGION IMALAMULIDWA NDI LIVINGISTOIA SYNOD A MALAWI, AWA ANNAPANGA NDI ZIWEMBU NDI NKHOMA SYNOD NDIYE AWUZA CHIYANI A MALAWI.

    KODI VUWA NDIYE WAMUKULU WA MA CHALICHI NDI MAFUMU KU MPOTO, SYNOD IDYANI NDALAMA ANATENGA VUWA ANAPASEDWA NDI PRESEDIT IZO, KOMA IWE ANATENGAPO ZAMBIRI ANAKISIILANI PANG’NO.

    CHALICHI ICHI BWANJI??????????????????????????????

    1. nanzikambe says:

      Atumbuka onse ku ma Tea Estate ku Mulanje, Thyolo muyambe kulongedza katundu.

      1. kanchenga says:

        Kulije atumbuka ku tiyi. Mungophetsa abale anu akusankha fodya ku mbalachanda uko. Malebala inu mungatani panokha. Itanitsani referendum mukukana bwaa.

  36. Muramba says:

    Leave my church alone and don’t say bad things about it. Thats the stand of the synod but not other churches so lets wait and see kuti zitha bwanji as they are entilted to their opinion also.

  37. rosie says:

    I think the north should actually have their own country with their own laws!! I think we should chase them back to their northern region and retain all of our land in LL and Blantyre. This is a good move!! I am for it

    1. Mzuzu CCAP Member says:

      Which land, the same land you have given to Nigerians, Burundians, Pakistanis, Indians, etc? By the we in the north will stay amicably with the half million tobacco tenants, lectures, civil servants, company staff, business people and venders from the south. They are our people and we certainly are not savages with any plans to turn pangas on our brethren. Anzathu aku mwera ku Mzuz, Mzimba, NB, RU, KA, CP, muli kumuzi kwanu, tambalalani, masukani. Muli ba nyithu nkhanira nkhanira!!!

  38. Mtumbuka says:

    Somethimg smells fishy here. Did Vuwa convene a caucus with Livingstonia Synod or Livingstonia Synod invited Vuwa to come see them tout their own Shofar!? It would have made more sense if Livingstonia Synod was commenting without link to a meeting with Vuwa. Vuwa has very bad image in the North and anything associated with him is dodgy. Livingstonia Synod should have stood with their own backbone then beat their drum. For argument`s sake did Livingstonia Synod consult the masses before saying what they say? Just thinking aloud here: looks like they are clearly seeing a speck in others`eyes while they have a log in their own eyes.

  39. mtumbuka says:

    kabanganyamwe where are we going people frm the north more especially clegymen shud stop been used by the so called politicians palabamupasani ka ndalama bwe mwayamba kubelebeta waka we need referendum for federalism

  40. Master says:

    why does this synod think it owns all northerners???????????? get life Livingstonia synod, u don’t represent north region bastards masquerading as pastors!!!! out of population of 1. 4 million people in north, only 300,000 are members of this stupid church, do dont fool us northerners as representing us, u dont speak for us, have u consulted us before making that stupid stand????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    1. Amama says:

      You have a very valid point, but you did not need to use the word ‘bastard’. No no please.

  41. Dadaboma says:

    I’m abandoning my CCAP membership right away. You mean Livingstonia clergy can be so stupid as to contradict themselves in love for money from APM through Vuwa? They now see no problem with the way APM, Bingu and DPP have treated the northerners? When the clergy were saying “No to Chichewa in our schools” did they forget that Malawi is one and united country where one language can be spoken? When they said “No to Quota system” did they forget that Malawi is a united country where regions don’t matter? When the Synod complained that “there is no northern student at Nkhata Bay sec sch. in the recent PSLC selection” did they forget that Malawi is a united country where it should not matter if the school is filled with southerners and centralers only? When the Synod was embroiled in border wrangles with Nkhoma Synod did it forget that Malawi is a united country and that borders don’t matter? Bullshit! And who said federation means national disunity? You mean USA is not united? UK is not united? Belgium is not united? RSA is not united? Nigerian is not united? Bullshit! Federation is simply devolution and sharing of power so that development is made possible at grassroots where it is needed. This call invariably comes wherever there are social and economic injustices and unfairness in the manner the central government allocates its resources to its diverse citizens. If this call for equity is ignored or stifled, then the demand for secession always follows and this is where Malawi in the present form will be demolished and new frontiers drawn with or without blood. So clergy be careful what you say. Stick to the Bible. Leave politics for politicians. We don’t need you in politics and we cannot draw on your advice. Learn from the Free Church of Scotland where you draw your roots from. When Scotland recently was voting for independence from UK the Free Church of Scotland left the Scots free to decide the best political system that best represented the wishes of the Scots – it neither interfered nor cried to be consulted. So stay away gents, eat the money and the scones quietly and do not dent the image of God’s institution.

  42. Central says:

    Livingstonia Synod, why are you maintaining these “Traitors”!! Seriously its time you borrowed a leaf from Blantyre Synod, they booted out “Rev. Gunya” after noting the same in him!! Do you “‘fear'” them…………………….!!!

  43. Bless says:

    I have respect 4 my chrch minister @ viyele CCAP in mzuzu for more thn 6years. Very humble and doesnt associate wth church’s money. Samazigwira ndalama za mpingo. Nw we thank GOD he is nw th synod moderator and we knw they r speakin th truth as a chrch! Imwe even ise tawanthu wa ku mpoto tawanandi tikukhumba yai. Ni nthimbanizgo izi!

  44. Mphalive says:

    Who says there is any struggle!!? One Nation one Malawi!! Tiyeni nazoni Abusa.!

  45. mpalestina vyankhanthu says:

    uyo wakuzomerezga kugawa ka charu kachoko aka, walije zeru kweniso ngwachigolo. Ine namukanilani wabali withu wanandi walikukhazikika ku mwera sono pala nithena wose awo wakuti tigawe waukeko walute ku Tanzania ise takana heeeeeeeeeee

    1. kholophethe says:

      Mpalestina ndiwe chindere and you are not from the north or you are capilikoni, foolish man

  46. vanikani NJASKO says:

    SO CONSULTATIONS WERE IMPORTANT.

  47. Jose' says:

    True men of God. Their Mission: .Advancing the agenda of Christ. Anything to do with dividing the Nation based on political greed, their answer is a resounding No!

    Akuonani kuti ndiinu oyipa. Bwanji nkhani ya federalism simunayitulutse mu manifesto yanu? Nanga pa campaign? I am asking you Lazaro, Lazaro Chakwera and your empty headed people propagating federal system of government from no where. Greeeeed and envy is all I can see

    1. Linga says:

      What Livingstonia Synod is saying is that the devolution of presidential powers into the North to ensure equitable development and address historic injustices on the North (Federalism) should not happen because they have churches in Lilongwe which they cannot surrender to the Nkhoma Synod which teach the same doctrines as them. This is ridiculous. They are confused. Federalism is not a dirty word. Reducing presidential powers is not disunity. It is the current unitary system that is promoting disunity. Once you come from the North you cant be President. Period! Livingstonia Synod thinks this is unity. Once you come from the North, you cannot be an Army General. Period. Northerners are second class citizens in their own country. This is not greed (unless you dont know what greed means). This is not envy. Refusing vote recount and rule thru a back door is what is greed.

    2. rosie says:

      Ndipo ask Lazaro yo kumene!!!

  48. Kabwiro says:

    That’s the way to go, preach peace always. Thumbs up Livingstonia Synod.

  49. Chikoko says:

    Livingstonia synod is the most confused ccap synod in malawi, very political and confused becoz its full of people from the north. I hope mzuzu diocese of the catholic church will not copy this wrong example of church leader always getting too much involvement ndi zamziko kuti alemere azipasidwa ndalama ndi anthu andale

    1. rosie says:

      Koma have you read an try to understand what they are saying???? Yes they have to be involved in this it is their right as a malawian citizen!! All men of God had to advise the politicians on the way forward.. Please read the Bible first in depth and ask God for understanding before you talk!!

  50. John says:

    Za kayisale zisiyeni inu… Akupasani zingati kodi?

  51. Jessie says:

    We dont need the synod in this struggle.You are not the representatives of the people,as people in the north have different denominations…some are CCAP,some are Catholic,some are pentecoastals,some are Anglican…your voice as Livingstonia Synod has nothing to do with these people..so let the will of the people be said.After all,kunabwera Vuwa,yake ija…we dont need you guys,taponderezedwa kokwana,and we DONT NEED THE SYNOD.YOU ARE ALL traitors.Let there be a referendum,nothing else.Mumalira a Livinstonia Synod kuti mukufuna achotse quota system,why remove the quota system when you have a soft stand on the president and the lomwes?Ma rubbish.I am renouncing my candidacy as a congregant of CCAP LIvingstonia Synod from today onwards.If seccession or federalism doesnt happen now,me and my entire family will have to change countries,I will either be a Zambian national,or a Zimbabwean national.I am tired of this rubbish you call a country of the unwise.

    1. kholophethe says:

      Foolish synod. Mind you there are other churches who also need members. If you can’t speak for us, we will do it ourselves, but woe to you for not standing up for the oppressed and standing with the oppressor

    2. #32
      BROTHER, YOU DON’T NEED TO LEAVE YOUR BELOVED NYIKA AND GO TO ZAMBIA. THAT IS WHAT PETER HITLER MUTHARIKA WANTS. HE WANTS TO FRUSTRATE NYIKA PEOPLE THAT SOME MUST COMMIT SUICIDE. WE MUST ENGAGE THE ENEMY IN THE LANGUAGE THAT HE TALK TO US, WAR. WE MUST FIGHT TO THE LAST MAN AND NO SURRENDER. I’M ALSO FED-UP WITH THIS UNITARY GOVERNMENT. THE BEST WAY IS TO BE ON OUR OWN. NEVER EVER LEAVE THE BEAUTIFUL NYIKA FOR THE LOMWES. WE MUST FIGHT THEM TO THE LAST MAN. DO NOT MOVE TO ZAMBIA–THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE STRUGGLE TO LIBERATE NYIKA FROM OUR OPPRESSORS. ALLUTA CONTINUAAAA!

    3. rosie says:

      Just because they have opposed your views then they are bad, but when they are for you you will defend their position.. you northerner you are the one that is full of “reverse nepotism’..

  52. Unity says:

    The synod top is a bunch of Money lovers thus why they planted churches in Lilongwe only for money. Analyse their position critically they have explicitly mentioned that. Hell is keenly waiting for you. Greed is equal to Livingstonia Synod. Vinthu vasuzga mpaka Synod kulya sikono! How can u choose Barnabas Peter Mutharika & listen to Judas Iscariot Vuwa? Shame on Stupid clergy! Ur light has gone dim. I had a lot for respect for u Nyondo but now I agree with the Chewas, Atumbuka ndiopanda nzeru, zeru zikwiza pala wachekula

    1. Tiyeni nazo says:

      Very true that that the debate for federalism has caught the Synod off guard bearing in mind that it established churches in LL more for financial reasons than spiritual.

  53. SMART says:

    I THINK CHURCHES IN MALAWI HAVE GOT BIG PROBLEMS.DON’T THEY SEE THAT CONFLICTS WHICH THEY ARE AVOIDING ARE ALREADY THERE,WHAT ARE THEY DOING ABOUT/ NOTHING.WHO TOLD THEM THERE WILL BE CONFLICTS ?HOW DO THEY KNOW THAT THESE ADVOCATES NEVER CONSULTED THE GRASSROOTS, BECAUSE THEM NEVER WENT TO GRASS TO ASK IF ADVOCATES VISITED THEM,I CONSULTED MY AREA A THESE CURCH PEOPLE NEVER WENT THERE TO ASK

  54. Synod yatizizitswa; ndalama (ya Vuwa) yikapachika yesu pa mphinjika. Is Are British diveded? what about Americans, South Africans, Nigerians, Indians, Germans, etc You would see that almost all best beforming countries in economy and governace are federal governments. Secetion vyapulikika kweni pala mukukana federation mukziziswa mbumba yinu mwe!

  55. P Lapukeni says:

    I hope they listens to the man of God
    Are these not the same people who never see issues but tribes? Let them bring out the issues and may be we can contribute

  56. Greencardless Malawian says:

    Chiuta uyo wakumanya vyakubisika pa maso gha banthu wakumanya unenesko wose pa nkhani iyi. Kweniso ndiyo wakulanga wakwananga (uheni) bose kwambula kulekako chifukwa iyo wakutinkha uheni (sin). Chiuta wamuyeluzgani kwakuyana na unenesko panji utesi winu nakumupani chiyeluzgi chakumwenelerani pa makani agha mwayowoya apa.

  57. Take this issue to us and so we will let you know what we are thinking thats when you can as well comment on the matter. What you have commented is not the people’s view but rather yours as the Synod. I as your sheep want and i have leaned on federal system of Govt.

  58. mr Kalolokesya says:

    Thank you Nyondo and Chipofya men of God for your comments.we are one as Malawians.its the people that believe in darkness and have no house even in the north that are advocating for this.Malawi is one!!

  59. ALOMWE says:

    A NYONDO MWALYA ZILINGA TIKUMANYA KALE AZIBUSA A CCAP CHINYENGO NDICHIMENE AMATHA KWAMBIRI KUPOSA CHILUNGAMO.

  60. Bandasiime says:

    If APM is serious about peace and unity, he should then reshuffle his cabinet now,now, now and form an inclusive one as well as remove/replace some of his Lwomwe puppets in some public positions and balance public appointments, otherwise what Vuwa is talking about is total nonsense and federalism fight must continue and Central Region must join it in earnest.

    1. John Nyirenda says:

      Have you seen chakweras shadow cabinet!

  61. mboma says:

    satanic church, what type of stand is that????? stupid pastors who are driven by money, stop commenting ion this, else dont speak for people u claim to stand for, the sam church cries against quota system later they defend mutharika that is he is for peace, can mutharika mathanyula be peace maker??????????

  62. Lottie says:

    Well, lets keep the debate on. Cessation will narrow the jurisdiction of the church since it will have to give up its structures spread in the Central Region. This is what I have been arguing about. Many of the Northerners have pitched their tents in the Central and Southern Region. The question is, will they be willing to go back northwards? Will they be willing to live in the remaining chunk of the country – now as foreigners?

  63. Osward says:

    Nyondo, just speak that which you know. People have great respect for you and would not want to lose it because of your reckless sentiments

  64. Mugonapamhanya says:

    Are these dudes who are advocating for federalism aware of high and unimaginable cost of running a federal system of govt? Malawi is economically on the death bed. Malawi cannot afford the most basic of drugs yet some disgruntled make-shift politicians are making crazy proposals in their own world. The Countries of South Africa and Nigeria which they are using as examples are both wealthy and are both politically, economically and historically divided countries so much that federalism was deemed as a cure. Their situation does not apply to Malawi. PP should lose with dignity and grace.

  65. vindere says:

    Vuwa Kaunda is clever, even the clergy have been bribed and fallen into his trap. First the chiefs,then the clergy.What next? All the people from the North? We will wait and see.

  66. bryan says:

    Why men of God nowadays are in the middle of making astray. Mr. Moderator don’t be afraid, say the truth that we Northerners; we are now tired of being misused. We gain nothing from the national basket. And Chipfya sounds like chewa name. Still we the Northerners, we need Federalism.

  67. chekambewa says:

    Mwaonatu ma pastors ku crashana okha okha che levi mwatani kondi? useless reverend

  68. Mulibwani? says:

    mbuzi!! mukhala choncho.

  69. Weniweni Balakasa says:

    aCHIPOFYA mu envelope yo mungupoka munguwa zilinga zakumuhongani? Mwana wa chiuta, wandelanga viphuphu chala. Muli nawanthu imwe?

  70. MaiMai says:

    KODI A CCAP what do you mean that you are the representative of people in the north? Are you the ONLY church there? After all Catholic the REAL force has not commented. Dont be stupid and carried away Mr. Chipofya we know you have been given a FAT envelope!!! Ndinu a nyuwani inu dikirani.

    IF CCAP was preaching UNITY WHY DID YOU encroach the central region that brought division with Nkhoma Synod? I sthat Unity? Unity now because it is Federalism????? Useless pastors.

    Who even told you federalism means disunity? Umbuli basi, osangofunsa kaye bwanji if you dont know. The problem of CCAP church is ” WE KNOW IT ALL SYNDROM”.

    Again if you are for peace and unity, why have you even written on your church wall that ” NO CHICHEWA IS ALLOWED TO BE PREACHED IN YOUR ST ANDREWS CHURCH”? Who do you want to fool here?

    MPs are the representative of people since they were elected by us ,,,did we the masses ever elect you Chipofya?

    Mafumu akumpoto says we represent people, CCAP we represent people bunch of money hungry confused poverty striken individuals lying in the name of God and masses………

    KNOW THIS ” EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE DARK, JESUS WILL BRING IT IN THE FULL LIGHT ON HOUSE TOPS ONE DAY”!!!

  71. Mbanangwa says:

    Why are you changing goal posts? How much has Vuwa Kainda given you? Whatever the case, the wind of change is blowing.

  72. Dickson says:

    God will bless Livingstonia Synod for understanding their role in a society of uniting the nation and not diving.
    Chiuta awe namwe.

  73. Dingase says:

    Livingstonia synod especially Levi Nyondo is after money and personal gains. Having congregations in the centre ( Lilongwe) do not mean that you need to win lost souls but to have more money since some tumbuka are there who are at good paying jobs hence they give more to the church than the locals in the village.
    I know Vuwa palm oiled you and that is what matters to you most but the call for fedelism will go a head whether you have been consulted or not.

  74. APM says:

    Hahahahahahaha cheap politicks Mr vuwa. Do u think u can counter the likes of Harry and mzomera? They are clever politicians than you. Be flexible to change where it is necessary. Fedalism is not a dirty word. But u want to make it dirty. People no longer trusts you Mr vuwa. Its only ur dpp who abuses uin this matter. At the end you will be dumped and stampled upon by these same people. Watch your steps.

  75. Du Mwama. says:

    Despite the synod stand our stand still prevails because we have blessings from above. GOD IS OUR BLESSINGS. We want peace and unity. Remember peace and unity can take place even when you have different nations. Unless they resist our call, peace and unity will be compromised. The churches preach peace within and beyond Malawian borders. NORTH WILL STAND ON PEACE AND UNITY AND WILL NOT DISTURB THE PEACE AND UNITY OF OTHER COUNTRIES. The synod has people in Central yes, after division they still remain under synod system. For example the synod has congregations beyond borders. I feel their NO fails to provide concrete reasons. ANYWAY WE DON’T KNOW WHAT VUWA DID TO THEM. WE TRUST OUR SYNOD! !!!!!!!”

  76. Alfred Munduwabo says:

    Please , take note that northern Region has many churches , not even one church has been approached , time will come when church leaders will be approached. Churches are represented by the same people who are advocating for federalism in many parts of Malawi not just northern Region as many people are wrongly putting it.

    The government should not punic , it’s too early to start thinking that they are wining by approaching Livingstonia Synod of C C A P only. That’s is wrong judgement and a wrong message Vuwa Kaunda is going to tell his boss.

    Christianity is not business and people are not going to change their religions because of federalism ,if Livingstonia Synod is thinking in that line it’s good because they have encroached in Central Region and that is what will make Central Region to vote for federalism , the advantage is there as well. Tit for tat , change is there to stay and Livingstonia CCAP is not a wining formula for any vote in the Northern Region , they have always been like that , they are sellouts since longtime ago , to make it worse they are corrupt and divided revs. They revs have built beoutiful houses as if they are also involved in cash gate scandal , we tend to wonder where they get the money for building those houses ? May be the same Rev Nyondo will give a good answer to the whole Northen Region.

    Rev , do not think the white collar has a meaning to all the northerners , we know you better and we respect you as well. It is better you don’t get exposed .

  77. Kadakwiza says:

    Federal system of government is the answer for Malawi. My advice to Mr. Mzomera Ngwira is don’t give up, push hard even harder until north Malawi gets what it was denied for the past 50 years, which is development. And can be implemented only by federal government. People of Northern Malawi please push. Viva Chitaganya Viiva!

  78. okafe says:

    Wisely handled by the Livingstonia Church “it is a national issue.” It is not a Synod’s issue, it is not Vuwa’s issue, it is not for any tribe. If I am asked, I will present my opinion which in any case must not reflect Malawi’s opinion. So, let’s debate at national level; referendum!!!!!

  79. Hu Jintao says:

    The problem is that the people this person with big mouth is consulting have never been at the helm of change. They are also easy to bribe.

    The other thing to note is that Vuwa has never had influence on people without giving out money and it is not him that has power but the money stolen from the government purse.

    Lastly people like Mathanyula should note that, the more the corrupt money he gives out, the more the conflicts will be and as has been the case with northerners, there shall never be turning back.

    1. Jones Chavula says:

      So it’s true you are trying to bring conflicts in Malawi? Because you lost elections?!!!

  80. MLOMWE says:

    AZIBUSA NDI WANTHU WANU PANGANI MBALI YANU KOMANSO MA MP WATHU APANGA MBALI YAWO POFOTOKOZERA NKHANIYI KWA WANTHU OSATIYIKA MAWU MKAMWA !! ZAMVEKA ???

  81. Mc Chigubu says:

    Go to hell Livingstonia Synod, you claim to preach peace & unity yet you are very happy confronting innocent Nkhoma Synod by building churches in their territorry, this is bullshit! You are such an idiotic synod & a digrace to the gospel of Jesus Christ as such keep your dirty mouths shut!

    1. duduzi says:

      Mc Chigubu, You need to be both mundanely and spiritually educated that the Nkhoma you call innocent is the one who provoked us aby building churches in the mighty Livingstonia Synod territory. Nkhonya yobwezera kuwawa, ndikudziwa ndiwe wa Nkhoma koma slow down my friend. Just pray hard that the mighty North should get independent so that you can inherit our structures otherwise you are not our match and this developmental spirit is the one that you people from the south and central are fearing that we will supersonically overtake you if we either become independent or go federal.
      Just because you fear that fear, that is why mukumatililira mumvekere mmmmmmmmmmm musachoke tibakhalira limodzi inuuuuuuuuu nanga si mukudziwa kuti mutsalira muzitukuko zambiri ndiponso chakudya chikusowani nanga si malo olima mulibe…….Osatikakamira apa tisiyeni tizipita apa…asa aulesi inu musatichedwetse ODI UKO……a Mzomera, a Chihana ndi a Harry adutseko apa!!

      Watch me, there is a pure misrepresentation of facts on the ground by the Nyasatimes Reporter, there will be refutation from the mighty SYNOD in papers by tomorrow because we do not believe this is the right version of our church. As a church we hate deliberate victimisation of a certain tribe, ethnicity, regionalistic or any sort of marginalisation of anybody in our country that is why we are looking forward to the dawn of the federal republic.

      ALIYENSE MUZIGAWO AZIZIWONERA YEKHA KUTI NDIDYE MASAMBA KUTI NDIMANGE NYUMBE KAPENA NDIDYE NYAMA KUTI NDIPITILIZE KUKHALA PA RENTI! MIGHTY NORTH WOYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, WINA ATSEGULA M’MIMBA…..TIYE NAVYO MZOMERA NA HARRY……..TILI PAMANYUMA PINU NKHANIRA NGA, NGA, NGA, NGA!

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