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Apostle Ndovi urges MPs to unite, pass budget

image Law makers urged to pass national budget and forgo constitution provision

A National Service of Worship marking the 44th Anniversary of Malawi's Independence was held on Saturday at Mzuzu Stadium with a call to the country's members of parliament to unite and pass the 2008-2009 National Budget and skip Section 65 of the Constitution. 

In his sermon during the service, held under the theme," Building a nation of achievers with God's Help", Living Waters International Church President, Apostle Dr. Stanley Ndovi said by refusing to pass the National Budget, members of parliament were "punishing" ordinary people, who had "nothing to do with the origin of the current political impasse." 

"Am asking all legislators to unite and pass the budget, because it is what Malawians are waiting for and understand better,” said Apostle Ndovi in the independence paryers. 

“Most Malawians don't understand much of Section 65. Therefore, it was imperative that should go for something that has a large bearing on people's lives," said Ndovi, while showering praises on President Bingu Mutharika, who was part of the congregation. 

Ndovi noted that the current tension that has engulfed the National Assembly is costing the nation, more than what it is gaining, a situation which he said is affecting various aspects of national development. 

"Am asking all politicians to start thinking positively about this country. We are all Malawians. We have only one Malawi, where all of us regardless of our political affiliations belong to. We have one President. We need to be proud of our nation, if we are to develop beyond here," said Ndovi. 

He then appealed to all political leaders to on their own to pray for themselves and the future of the country. 

"Our politicians must learn to come down on their knees and start praying for the country and themselves. They should not only look to religious leaders to pray for them. They have an obligation to God. If they learn to pray, they will be God-fearing and rise above personal and selfish interests," he said. 

Malawi celebrates 44 independence from former colonial master Britain on 6 July. 

The national celebration will be held at Mzuzu Stadium in the northern region where among other activities the national soccer team will play against Kenya in a friendly match. 

In United Kingdom, Malawians living there have organized a party to mark the celebrations. 

The dinner dance where Malawi High Commissioner to UK, Dr Francis Moto will attend will be held at Wembley Plaza Hotel in London on Saturday night and another party for Malawians in Leeds and Manchester has been organized in Leeds at Up’s and Down Club Saturday night. 

Family celebrations in UK have been arranged for Manchasetr on 6 July and Conventry on July 12. Late Kamuzu Banda secured Malawi independence after breaking the infamous Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland  which was dissolved on December 31, 1963. Malawi became a fully independent member of the Commonwealth on 6 July 1964 .   

Comments (25 posted):

John Manda on 05 July, 2008 12:03:18
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had it been * was an MP, * could have taken posive aproach to the remarks by apostle Ndove.(lord dont leave us on this trying times)
MAU SATHA on 05 July, 2008 12:12:11
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The constituion is has more value than the finances. If the constitution has loop holes, and is flouted, there can be no transparence in government transactions. therefore it is recomended to have a proper constitution which has to be protected by the president, not abused regardless of a political party in power. So Mr preacher, do we have to follow God'* or his blessing first. Rules govern first for smooth transtion of any process.
Mau Satha.
CM on 05 July, 2008 12:27:43
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Enafe tiri kutali. A Nyasatimes muyeseleko kumaikapo tima video clip patali patali kuti nkhani zizikoma powerenga - Makamaka nthawi yachisangalalo ngati ino, ngati kuli kotheka mutikhululukire. Nkhani zoti mutu wake "Bingu" kapena "Atcheya" nthawi zonse, zatopetsa.
mbobo on 05 July, 2008 02:21:24
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Ndovi you are a sell out, the power of God no longer resides you and you cannot claim to speak on behalf of God because your priorities are just as skewed as those of the political masters you have sought to serve over the years. During Bakili'* third term bid,what did you say...and what can you tell people now? The budget is just as important as Section 65 and what you and your master Bingu are doing is to take advantage of the very same attitude you so well explain 'that people do not understand the section 65 issue.' You take advantage of that to convince the people that it is the budget they need and not the constitutional provision. Kodi Mulungu alibe malamulo? Tingamulore munthu kuti abe chifukwa alibe chomwe akufuna? Ngati zili choncho, then why do we have laws, constitutional and biblical provisions? To help you with the answers, Ndovi, we have laws and constitutional provisions to bring order and rationality to life otherwise in the absence of such guiding principles, aliyense akhoza kumachita zomwe akufuna and there is no better recipe for anarchy than that. So Ndovi, shut up, you are not speaking on anyone'* behalf, let alone God.
Kajani Banda on 05 July, 2008 02:38:49
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Being a keen follower of Apostle Ndovi'* messages, * find it not strange for this man to deliver such a message. Pastor Ndovi is a man of God who is good at dishing out messages of HOPE and PROSPERITY. He portrays God as ever-loving and so gracious that is open to loving and blessing his people even if they are in deep sins. Serving God with FEAR and TREMBLING as well as looking at God as a JUST GOD who can punish sin does not exist in his Bible. Give GOD tithes and offering and the gates of heaven will open tarara!!!

Dr Ndovi'* analysis of the Malawian situation here is not only narrow but biased. Here is a man of God who is advocating openly breaking the law of the land by using the people'* shear ignorance. The Apostle needs to know that in as much as it sounds nice to put the budget before constitution because the budget is supposedly meant to cater for the peoples needs, it is totally wrong to completely ignore laws. Let me quote my idore Donna Brazile (Democrat Super delegate): "People must always play by rules set out before the beginning of a game. Any change of rules during or after the game is refered to as CHEATING" (paraphrased).


Apostle Ndovi should not petend to be more clever than the respectable mediating clergy who were patient enough to look at the broader context of the issue. * know these guys. They have spent more time in school and read more books than the Apostle. Uniting does not mean taking the views of one side. It is not surpring that Dr Ndovi is a failed administor in many aspects. Pastor Ndovi should not be surprised when the likes of Madalitso are by far outperforming him. It is oversimplication of issues to completely IGNORE a clause in the constitition whatever the motive.
monda on 05 July, 2008 03:25:58
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Pastor Ndovie if these remarks are your suggestions as human being not representing the church then thats fine but make sure to separate your own remarks from those representing the church.Because even some in your church cannot agree to this.

So you should trod well you might lose some church members since these remarks are so sensitive.As church founder its good to be on the middle of the road.However its not wrong to make suggestions as a human being but not representing your church.ALLAH KNOWS BEST
kajombo on 05 July, 2008 04:05:32
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A Ndovi ingokhalani phee. Mulibe nzeru inu. Amemene mumanamiza a church chanu to enrich yourself sanakwanire?. * wonder why this controversial person is given a microfone. Why doesn'* tell openly the God he believes in: the God of the Mammon?! He is another politician who will stop at nothing but to please the wshes of those with a pulse. The Good News is not about pleasing the rich or majority. Rather it is about speaking the truth. Ndovi knows this is not truth.

Cheat people with anything, but God the almighty will judge.
666 on 05 July, 2008 05:50:56
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* agree with Dr. Ndovie 100% than these mad opposition:

The issue here is that sec.65 is not a short term issue: Some one tell me we have 10 months to elections now and after the DPP mps are chopped now, they will run to the courts getting injunctions etc and by the time we talk of bye elections it will be two to three months be4 next elections and here are the impact if we act now on section65:

1- Tax payer will suffer twice within a short period of time by funding bye-elections for the stollen mps and genuine mps simple.

2- Waste of time for advancing our country'* development.

So to me any sober and normal person shd be able to say sec.65 is of benefit in the long term and not in the short term as advocated by opposition and some mad muppets here.
It is an open secret why opposition wants sec.65 quickly enacted so as to impech Bingu which is also imposible now.

With this view Ndovie is right than these Catholic Bingu directed Bishops!!!

Devil Shut Up!!!! in Jesus Name!!!
ChaweZa on 05 July, 2008 05:59:13
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Jealous down Ndovie walankhula bwino and all those full of eveil spirits musanza magazi. Where was sec.65 nthawi ya Muluzi? Kutamba chani? Mwayesa sitiziwa ife kuti ndi ndale basi on sec.65? Makolo anga afe kuchipatala chifukwa chosowa mankhwala kuchipatala ati chifukwa wina akufuna sec.65??? kusuta chani? Or Pangozi amati kankhani galasi ili no matter how expensive the mirror is so in this case KANKHANI SEC. 65 AND PASS ON THE BUDGET.

Enanu ndimakudabwani you mean sec. 65 njofunika msangamsanga panopa? If we are genuine opposition on this let'* pend it, pass the budget and we enact it osati, No salary increment no treatment of patients? Munthuwa nzeru ameneyo? These opposition are selectively choosing which secs. to put emphasis on ....why not Information Act Bill? Akuziwa nawonso azaipaniliranso akazalowa M'boma TVM and MBC ****** eti!!!

Satana ndi ana ake mwauponda!!!!

By the way don'* give these defunct mps salaries from opposition kuti awone practically which is important sec. 65 or budget>>>>
MaiMai on 05 July, 2008 06:02:40
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eNANU MA MPS ndima uncles anu ndiye muzaziwa which one is important between Budget and Sec. 65 Bingu akapanda kuwapasa ma salary a July ma mp'wa. This will be practical panopa mungonamizana rule of law , rule of law yopanda cash mthumba??? Ma mp a opposition akukakamira rule of law panopa chifukwa zili mthumba ma mk15,000 per day wait and see akayamba kutuwa and most of them depend on Muluzi.
So blame Ndovie now and you will understand later what he maent.

God Knows Best!!!
MONDE on 05 July, 2008 06:09:45
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Even muma basi amalemba kuti pangozi kankhani galasi ndiye tafikapa akuluakulu pofunika kukankha sec. 65 and pass budget yathu.

Sec. 65 njopindulira Bakili ndi Tembo basi ife kumuzi sitidya sec. 65. We managed to stay 31 years under Kamuzu and Tembo (panotu aiziwa rule of law a Tembo, zosekesa kwabasi) koma sitimadandaula chifukwa m'mimba munali chakudya, Nthawi ya Atcheya'* tinakhala 10 years no rule of law with constant change of the constitution like disolution of senate, kusankha second vice president opanda constitution kutero koma timadandaula chifukwa pa tebulo panalibe nsima chimanga chidagulisidwa ku Kenya anthu nkumafa ndi njala.
Ndovie you are ma Man!!!!
Keep it Up!!! You bring hope to the Hopeless chikakhala enawa ndi Nsanje basi!!! Kuzanzidwa ndi mizimu yoipa basi nkumasunsa zilizonse
chibeme on 05 July, 2008 06:15:37
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Ndovie ukubwera bo auze ma mp osamvawa ayesa anthufe timadya sec.65. Budget benefits outweighs sec. 65 benefits in the short term....WINA ASUSE YAPA???

Inali kuti sec. 65 nthawi ya Tcheyayu? Nanga rule of law inali kuti nthawi ya JZU? Osamanamizana Amalawi.

Blame Muluzi for hios undemocratic principles anasankha Bingu by forcing pple and now Bingu wamuvuluza iyeyo anati ndinkutunda pano mtunda wasanduka bwinja... Let muluzi suffer for this mistake dont involve all of us malawians, umanena chasisa dzaye kuti njovu ithyoke nyanga!!!

BUDGET FIRST SEC.65 LATER, Atcheya akazalowa M'boma.
Zuze on 05 July, 2008 06:53:22
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Ndovi is another conman posing as a religious leader with little respect for the rule of law. One wonders where he got his doctorate. It makes me increasingly suspicious on where these so called preachers are getting their degrees. A man who advocates the breaking of the law by picking and choosing constitutional provisions does not befit the title apostle and let alone Dr. How on earth can he claim and think that he is sufficiently qualified to speak of the ignorance of the people?

He thinks he is so intelligent to understand the budget. Even educated Malawians do not understand it. Actually, most Malawians would understand section 65 more than the budget and the budgetary process. Sec 65 can simply be understood as preventing scrupulous MPs from twisting people'* interests by changing political parties in the national assembly. Voters understand this. Ndovi made a very ignorant statement which even uneducated person cannot make.

But even if voters did not understand Sec 65, as opportunist Ndovi suggests, our democracy allows voters the latitude to understand the issues through their representatives. Voters have delegated their responsibility to understand in the hands of the MPs in a representative democracy. Thus, a suggestion that the voters do not understand the Sec is preposterous and underestimates the knowledge not only of voters but also of the MPs who were elected to carry out delegated duties of the voters. MPs currently fighting to implement Sec 65 are basically representing the interests of the voters so that next time they are no longer cheated. Ndovi must be schooled to understand that Malawi is a representative democracy. It is not and has never been a direct democracy. In a representative democracy, what voters do not understand rests with their representatives called MPs.

But as far as we know, voters understand Sec 65 more than they do with the budget whose complicated promises do not in most cases trickle down to the majority of them. Without diminishing the importance of the budget to the people, the most these so called pro-poor budgets have done is to make politicians and their special interest groups including Ndovi himself become rich in proportions beyond the comprehension of the poor and the common man. All in all, it strains credulity to think of the motives people of the likes of Ndovi, Tamani (a man * once respect), and some lecturer at Chancellor College have in spinning wrongly the importance of the budget and that of other constitutional provisions like Sec 65. First, Tamani has not credibility in disagreeing with the resolution of the mediating clergy. He had hoped his biased mediations through PAC would amount to something which did. Thus he attempts to discredit the findings of the mediation clergy. This is not the first time MPs agreed with the assertion Ndovi, Tamani, and the so called Lecturer at Chaco (my foot!) propose to first deal with the budget. What happened last year when the MPs were duped by the prorogation of parliament? It is apparent that government wants to once again dupe the MPs and therefore the constitution by dealing with the budget first. Anyone interested in ending the stand off like the mediating Clergy have suggested would ably embrace the concurrent application of Sec 65 and the passing of the budget.

Without Sec 65 democracy is but at a serious risk. One hopes Ndovi, Tamani, and the scrupulous lecturer at Chanco will cede there interests to the interests of the people and that of democracy.
Mfipa on 05 July, 2008 07:21:38
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Mwachita Makola Apostle pakuwaphalira wa Malawi. Wose awowasusyapo pa makani a, wakutemwa Malawi yayi. They are just ...... extremist bent to steal destroy,and kill our country. This time, we're saying NO to you devil and your demons! and too,the LORD is against you.
Kajani Banda on 05 July, 2008 08:18:47
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Inu anthu, the issue is not whether Muluzi broke the constitution or not. What you should undestand is that some of us are not even sympathizers of your chair and are level headed enough to praise Bingu if he does something right. But * don'* prescribe to the idea of blind allegiance which some of you seem to show. One characteristic of law is that it does not change. Section 65 was as valid during Muluzi'* time as it is today. * agree with Chaweza, Monde and Chibeme. There was no need to rush with the application of Section 65, which is why the opposition have waited for aver three years to wait for the Govt to come to it'* senses. The reason why the opposition want section 65 applied now is that they are equally tired of govt'* irreponsibility. They are also using the "pangozi"principle by using the budget. Everybody knows that the opposition are applying sanctions on Govt and sanctions do not necessarily have to be in line with the offence committed. Otherwise Apartheid siakanatha or Mugabe will not bow down.

Some of us are emabarasssed when we explain to the guys in U.*. about what our very president did by ditching his own party. The question one is always asked is "is that allowed in your constition?". it is only in Malawi where some of these things make sense. but seriously, there are problems.

Inu, this section is so clear, such that, ordinarily, those people crossing the floor should be fully aware of te consequencies. It does not even have to take the govt. to use bogous pastors like Ndovi to advance the point. These are individuals who get a Phd in three months from the university'* them (and probably Bingu) know better, they also like to be so authoritative beyond what is expected of such people. * mean, the Jesus * know would at no time make such a statement during his ministry even if when confronted with questions relating to govt administration.

Ine ndikuti for ONSE OPWANYA MALAMULO let us apply anything to stop them. The criminal MPs need to go and go NOWWWW!
chazochazo on 05 July, 2008 10:37:27
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What type of the pastor is this man. No section of the constitution is powerful than the other, it only depend how that section is used. Its the same with GOD'* commandments. Can Mr Ndovi tell us which commandment is of more important than the others. Bingu cheated the opposition last time so this is his time to pay back. The budget will change nothing to me and my mum as long as we live in a free MALAWI.
Kaya on 06 July, 2008 12:45:37
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Malamulo a Mulungu anaikidwa kuti aliyense atsatire be it mbusa or not. So if Mr Ndovi is saying that it means he does not know what he is talking about. Do you mean Moses was not following the laws he was given at Mt Sinai? Iye anali nga nga nga pambuyo pa malamulo. If you have nothing to say the better you remain quiet. Mzako ananenapo za tribalism and you are talking nonsense. Akanakhala kuti Mose amachita zimene akuchita Bingu Mulungu sakanamulola kuti akafike pa malo pamene anafika paja iyayi. Mr Ndovi musatipangitse kuti tiyambe kukuphunzitsani za Bible pano ayi. This is not a pulpit. If you want to be favoured by the president find another way of doing it. Munakaphunzira kuti za ubusa wanuwo? If anything you were supposed to be in the fore front critisizing this government in a mature and acceptable manner. Just a reminder Mr Ndovi, when did the issue of section 65 start? If it were dealt with there and then could we be talking about it now? Who is behind all this mess, or who took the issue to court for interpretation? When was that and why did they not deal with it soon after the court ruling? ABUSA ONYENGA INU. Mbusa should stand by his principles and be driven by events and circumstances, no. You are compromising you priesthood mr Ndovi. Munayenera kubweretsa kuwala pamene pali mdima and not be part of the darkness.
Good luck ladies and gentlemen. Tili nanu ngakhale tili kunja.
Bright K on 06 July, 2008 03:45:26
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In the first place, what is the origin of section 65. It was mutted out of greed in order for the powers that may be to continue their legacy and hold to power. This Law is in conflict with the main statute that guarantees freedom of association and as such it should not have been allowed to exist along side that. However, the legal committee failed the nation and allowed that law to proceed. The Supreme court made its on interpretation on what the politically motivated judges understood the law to be without looking at what effect that law has on the political climate. This has been stated as such because any learned speaker who truly understands the constitution in its entirety will find it difficult to apply this law. This is because it is bound for reinterpretation and unending challenges. In the first instance we have a party that may demand an MP deemed to have crossed the floor to be expeled from Parliament. This is a staight forward case and that is what is causing the political stalemate. Then comes the second type of case that actually led to the birth of section 65 and that is, One party (in this regard mainly a ruling party or a party that will have the speaker'* ear)makes accusation that some members of one party are associating with another party on political matters and as such demand that the speaker should expel those members from Parliament. In short there is confusion on how far application of this law can go before all reactions and counter reactions settles down. For now all those MPs who have crossed to DPP must be expelled from Parliament. At the same time seeing the way the opposition have been collaborating and deemed to associating with each other, DPP may bring a counter action challenging the speaker to expel UDF and MCP memebers of parliament. Accordingly If the speraker does not act on such a request, he will be failing on his part. In the end what one sees is childish in the nation. Why should a nation allow a meaningless Law to exist. Are Malwian legislators so dumb. Take the case what is happening at the moment. Muluzi, Gwanda and others are having an alliance as they forge ahead in their election campaign. Mean time their Party Lawyers would assure them that they can collaborate because they are outside Parliament. Now what happens when by Gwanda, Kamlepo, Mussa, Muluzi and others in the alliance all get elected to Parliament under their Party tickets, will thwy be allowed to co-oporate with each other? Section 65 says they would have crossed the floor. That is what makes this Law a problem such that if it were to be strictly applied, it makes Malawi as the only country in the world that prohibits coalitions by Law and yet in practice it exists and no wonder it is a recipe for never ending wrangles. With this understanding, * agree with Ndovie for the first time that budget passing must be done as a matter of priority. For me what to do with section 65 is ???

This is my analysis of what section 65 means in the long run and * issue a challenge to my colleagues in the legal fraternity to challenge me on this matter. * desire intellectual contributions and not merely those based on political inclination.
Tithana Ngubane on 06 July, 2008 06:30:05
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Chilungamo chimawawa. Zoona Amalawi tafunanso kuukira munthu wa Mulungu.Choyamba mudziwe kalelanu. Mukalidziwa mudzatha kuchita zinthu zopindulira tsogolo lanu. Amalawi tayiwala kale lathu. Zoona gawo 65 la malamulo liyimitse dziko. ANTHU ADYERA INU. APOSTLE Ndovie pitirizani kuwayikiza mmapemphero anthu awa chifukwa Bakili wawatseka mmaso powalonjeza zinthu zankhaninkhani kuonjezera mipando mboma lofuna kulanda kudzera mu section 65. Inu a Tembo ndi a Bakili mukuchita kulumbira kuti May, 2009 mulowa mboma? Zikatero sindiye kutha kwa aphungu othawa zipani zawowo?
Tithana Ngubane on 06 July, 2008 06:30:05
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Chilungamo chimawawa. Zoona Amalawi tafunanso kuukira munthu wa Mulungu.Choyamba mudziwe kalelanu. Mukalidziwa mudzatha kuchita zinthu zopindulira tsogolo lanu. Amalawi tayiwala kale lathu. Zoona gawo 65 la malamulo liyimitse dziko. ANTHU ADYERA INU. APOSTLE Ndovie pitirizani kuwayikiza mmapemphero anthu awa chifukwa Bakili wawatseka mmaso powalonjeza zinthu zankhaninkhani kuonjezera mipando mboma lofuna kulanda kudzera mu section 65. Inu a Tembo ndi a Bakili mukuchita kulumbira kuti May, 2009 mulowa mboma? Zikatero sindiye kutha kwa aphungu othawa zipani zawowo?
Ritta Nandau on 06 July, 2008 09:54:49
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Anganya inu vomerezanidi bajeti. Kubwerera kwanu ku nyumba yamalamusi kuli mbajeti yomweyo.
Nachithizi on 06 July, 2008 04:26:28
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A Ndovi khalani phee, anzanu a Margaret wanjiru anongokalowelatu politics run and won a seat, Mwadya za anthu osauka mwalemela now you want to move on to Politics, knock yourself out but leave the bible at home. We know you and jimmy swaggarts of this world and the Jim Bakers of this world you are just like the rest of us so get off your high horse and own up. There is more cash in being an MP than in receiving free food bread, rice, flour anzathu mukuzidyelatu kukamwa kuchita kuti noni noni kudya za anthu osauka.
Chikaonda on 06 July, 2008 07:29:32
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kAJANI bANDA you are a lier on Ndovie'* messages, * have ever attended his ceremonies in his church in BT he talks on all subjects and not on Prosperity and Hope only, at same time every man of God is given a message to preach to people so not every man of God can be talking about holiness no, or prayer, or sin ndi mphaso zimenezi ma Evangelist amapanga dwell kwambiri pa sin not Apostles. Umbuli ndi nchito bwanji, you are just jealous thats what * can say about you.

Ndovie * agree with you pokhapa sec. 65 is useless in the short term and useful in the long term as already pointed out by several guys on the fora here.

Why quick! Quick act on sec.65? Nanga Bakili anaikhalira bwanji? Simumaifuna rule of law that time? How many Live MPS did Bakili buy? Including Tembo anagudwa and the whole aford DIED DUE TO THIS GIVE AND TAKE. You forgot how Muluzi bought Khwauli who sold our country into open term bills in parlianment? Thank God he saved us from wamuyaya Muluzi, Amalawi mujmaiwala or pretence. After his defeated open term then Bakili wanted to rule from back door using owoneka opusa Bingu, which failed again ZANJA Likalemba lalemba basi!!! GOD REJECTED MULUZI NOT ANY MAN, AND WHAT GIVES YOU COURAGE NOW THAT HE CAN WIN????

When God says NO its NO!!!! Ask Sauli mu Bible in the old testament and if you force yourself on people Mulungu amakukutumula ndi chibakela chowawa and wait for May 2009 and you will see how embarrassed MULUZI will be and you wil;l clap hands for NDOVIE tHAT TIME.
Bulaula Kayiwonanga on 06 July, 2008 08:53:17
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Ndovi akugwrizana nazo za a Bingu koma mlariki ameneyu akudziwa kuti nkhani ya Budget ytaloredwa chaka chatha, Binug anathesa parliament kusiyana mumene anagwirizana, tsopano iye wachokela kuti nanga. These preachers were deliberately selected to appease Bingu Fr.MTumbuka beacause at one time he spoke to Bakili urging him not to stand again (Bingu'* interest) The government recommended him see what he hsa said Bingu osayakha zilizonse if * gotcorrectly the chichewa version of what he said. A Ndovi ndi aja anapeperela Muluzi in short Ndovi akufuna Ndalam kwa Bingu basi. MONDA KNOWS BEST. Sichoncho?
Mchrisitu on 08 July, 2008 07:19:55
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* think we need to be carefull when attacking men of God. We dont have to attack their personality just to put across our points. * would rather we comment on the Apostles points rather than his way of life.
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