Distinguish sin and crime: Activist censure Malawi clergy on gay rant

Human rights campaigner Timothy Mtambo has said Malawi was founded on secular pillars of democracy and is not a Christian nation therefore calls by religious leaders for government to outlaw homosexuality is irrelevant and misplaced.

Mtambo (L) and Gift Trapence :  Malawi is secular state therefore should be run on Christian doctrine

Mtambo (L) and Gift Trapence : Malawi is secular state therefore should be run on Christian doctrine

Mtambo, who heads the vocal Centre for Human Rights and Rehabilitation (CHRR), said people should distinguish sin from crime.

A crime is a violation of criminal law, a sin is a violation of religious law or belief.

“Let the state run the affairs of the nation based on democratic principles and human rights not on church doctrines,” said Mtambo.

He said whilst religious leaders may view homosexuality as a sin before God, the Republican Constitution, to the contrary respects rights of everybody including the minority gays and lesbians.

He therefore said homosexuality is not a crime in Malawi therefore religious leaders and their followers should respect this.

Mtambo said the government should not be forced to mix up between sin and crime, saying Malawi is a secular state.

Catholic bishops and other religious leaders including Muslims have been urging President Peter Mutharika not to give in on donors’ pressure to allow homosexuality.

However, there is a heated debate on social media outlets and comments posted on Nyasa Times on the matter with some asking why church leaders are taking homosexuality as the worst sin more than prostitution, theft or envy which are clearly spelt out in the Biblical 10 commandments.

When asked why he was promoting rights of gays in Malawi when he was heterosexual himself, Gift Trapence of Centre for Development of People hit back: “You don’t need to be a child to be a rights activist, you don’t need to be a prostitute to be an activist of prostitutes, you don’t need to be a woman to be a rights activist of women.”

Government says there are 40000 gays in Malawi but most of them operate underground in fear of discrimination or threats to their lives.

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27 thoughts on “Distinguish sin and crime: Activist censure Malawi clergy on gay rant”

  1. Jones says:

    To Morris (20) Malawi was created by a western culture. Why has the Min of Education brought the teaching of English into junior classes? Why is English spoken in your parliament? Malawi has signed the UN declaration on human rights and until they withdraw from that agreement anyone can take the constitution or the Laws of Malawi to the UN and seek a solution. Finally, where did your GOD come from?

  2. Jones says:

    You the so called human rights campaigner we have been fed up with your nonsense we are born from a mother and a woman thats why we are humans. Fight for your so called rights to people of your nature who are not born from a father and a woman not us. Have you ever saw a cock a having sex with a fellow cock? It is clear that your thinking capacity is very shallow more than a bird and your education did nothing to you. By the way how did they choose you to be a reader of that organisation, is it because of your foolishness? We are God fearing people don’t bring curse in our nation with your satanic ideas.

  3. Atate says:

    I for one really like the comment from Angozo.

  4. Benard Binwell says:

    christianity ikubwera pano pomwe policy imeneyi ili mkamwa mkamwa remember gyz sitinasankhe mbusa to be president anthu anangosankha malinga ndi mfundo zake nde anthu asamuphunzitse bible lero! popedza chiwelerewele ndi tchimo koma constitution yomweyo siiletsa uhule bwanji tikapange oppose imeneyi

  5. Angozo says:

    Mr Mtambo, would you also advocate for the revision or removal of the Malawi National Anthem as it mentions God. If you do not succeed in getting this done, then shut up your rotten mouth as you do not know what you are talking about. You, sons of the devil. You might be intelligent but your intelligence should not pop its nose into the ream of wisdom, you will not succeed. If you succeed in this earthly life you will regret on the last day. Who are you to school the clergy? Would you have existed if it were not for GOD to give you chance to be born on earth? Would you have been born if your father married a fellow man? These rights should have limits. I wonder if those that are advocating for freedom of homosexuals step their foot on the Church or Mosque doors. If they do they have to be excommunicated.

  6. Angozo says:

    Mr Mtambo, would you also advocate for the revision or removal of the Malawi National Anthem as it mentions God. If you do not succeed in getting this done, then shut up your rotten mouth as you do not know what you are talking about. You, sons of the devil. You might be intelligent but your intelligence should not pop its nose into the ream of wisdom, you will not succeed. If you succeed in this earthly life you will regret on the last day. Who are you to school the clergy? Would you have existed if it were not for GOD to give you chance to be born on earth? Would you have been born if your father married a fellow man? These rights should have limits. I wonder if those that are advocating for freedom of homosexuals step their foot on the Church or mosque doors.

  7. Morris says:

    Those who are supporting such immoral behaviours should be sentenced to death including these two devils , Mtambo and trapence. Yes Malawi is a secular state , but it does not mean people should be under the influence of western cultures. Let those who are busy advocating this immoral practice take and teach their sisters and brothers.

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  9. Diederichs Banda says:

    Mtambo you should be in apposition to know that there is no difference between the two unless you are being guided by the father of sin which is a crime in the sight of God .Remember that the first punishment of crime was to keep that person(one who has committed crime or has sinned against the community including moral behavior) in custody, If you study CRIME you will be in apposition to understand this. Punishment was that that one was to be put in jail and be given a bible for seven days and be repeated till he/she repents . There is no sin without crime and crime is named sin is spiritual maters. You are advocating for the nation to go to hell. Go alone and leave Malawi alone.

  10. George phiri says:

    The President has complicated issues by suspending the law.

  11. Keyboard says:

    Mbuya who told you that all people who try heterosex amamva kukoma? Ngati iweyo umamva kukoma, thank God for that, there are some who dont feel thgat way.
    I know youb cant believe this, but this is the whole essence of respecting those who are different from us. Dont assume everybody is like you., We are 6bn people on this planet.

  12. Keyboard says:

    When somebody steals there is a complainant. Stealing causes harm to somebody. When two adults agree to engage in homosexual act, they both do it hapopily. This is in fact better than a priest sleeping with a married woman and causing harm to her and her family.There is no complainant when gays engage in sex. There is no victim. Why therefore should the State feel victimised over something two consenting adults agreed on?
    I think gayism was “wrongly criminalized by the old people. We can not continue with a bad law.

  13. Pilirani Gondwe says:

    Big up Mtambo and your crew. Gays and lesbians do not infringe on someone’s wrights, not do they do shit in public. They are religiously wrong but have committed no crime. It’s their choice and they are adults who fully understand the benefits and consequences of what they chose to do with their bodies.

  14. Tim says:

    Government thinks a lot of foolishness… There are far more than 40,000 homosexuals in the country. Many are married and even bisexuals.
    There are even gay men sitting in the Parliament and Pastors of the very Churches preaching hate

    What a foolish country!

  15. Oliver Twist says:

    Kikikikikikikikiki!!!!!!!! Thanks The Analyst! Tell them, you can be intelligent but if you luck wisdom, then you are useless! But you cannot be intelligent and be wise, hence people will respect you. Who are you to school the Clergy??? On matters of Law, you already show that you have failed, coz you are just contradicting yourselves! We know that you owe your funders a lot but please shut your mouths instead of shouting like empty buckets. We’ve got serious issues in this country, why don’t you pursue them???

    1. The Analyst says:

      Ask them even more . . .
      Thanks n welcome.

  16. Mbuya says:

    Kodi inu amathanyula wochindidwa nayeso amava kukoma as it happens to male and female answer me coz a opp sex umafika polira kuli kukoma nanga inu?

  17. Mbuya says:

    Anthu azimathanyula

  18. Chigandu says:

    I now know that the devil in you lives and dines with you and you (Ntambo) and trampence whatever you call yourself lives with the devil.We know devil is American and British so don’t bring it here coz we are Malawians.

  19. Patriot says:

    I PRAY THAT THEIR MALE CHILDREN WILL BECOME HOMOSEXUALS.
    Ana a satana awa, muzafa imfa yowawa.

  20. I REALLY FEEL SORRY FOR THESE TWO GUYS. TIYENI TIOPE CHAUTA ABALE. NDALAMA NDI SATANA .

  21. za ziii, iwe mtambo monga sukudziwa kuti mathanyula is a crime in Malawi constitution? If a pig or goat knows its opposite sex how about a homo sapien? Mugabe was right these gay dunderheads are worse off than pigs & dogs and they have no place here. You can’t win that fight. go tell ur financial backers to go to hell. For your info only parliament can suspend an article in the constitution not some damn minister, AG or a makiyolo basi president and his mathanyulatic cabinet . Za ziii go stay in the west not here

  22. The Analyst says:

    O………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………O
    There is a subtle contradinstinction between sin and crime. In fact, the two are one, mutatis mutandis.

    Almost, all crimes enshrined in the laws are dictates of the scripture (sins) turned into crime hence punishable by law, mutatis mutandis. Others were even lazily hence embarrassingly just copied from the Scriptures (without changing anything) and pasted in the Laws. Like do not commit murder . . . steal . . . bear false witness (oaths taken in court, at assumption of office, e.t.c); now even adultery (condemned with K100,000 fine and at least a year in jail, in the Marriage age, Divorce and Relations Bill).

    And the homosexuality you devilishly promote is not only a sin in the scripture but also a crime written, in black and white, in the Republican Constitution and condemned with a 14 year-jail term.

    So what are you talking about, you egghead-dunderhead?
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    . . . I have always believed you come to know whether a person is intelligent or not only when they open their mouths and speak. But for you Mtambo, one just needs to look at your face, and can tell that you are a dumb and daft nicompoop.
    . . . I now also believe that those who go to university and come out sharper were already sharp even before going into university. Thus, if you are dumb, you come out of the university dumb, sometimes even dumber (confused). Your years at Chanco Mtambo, were indeed wasted!
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  23. evance phiri says:

    I think these 2 gentlement need spiritual healing because they are really really sick.
    I’m talking about mtambo and trapence. Why they are failing to realize the abnormality of the so called minority rights is a sign of their chronicle desease they are suffering from.
    Kodi iwowa makolo awo akanakhala ma gays, anthu awiriwa anakabadwa? Chonde a Malawi,
    tisawamveere awiriwa ndi anthu omvetsa chisoni. Akuonetseratu kuti apatsidwa ndalama ndi mabungwe a satanist omwe akulimbikitsa m’chitidwe onunkhawu.
    Look at their faces, they really look like a husband and wife. Shame!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Who told them that Malawi was founded on democracy pillars? Let me tell them something, mwina abadwa posachedwapa. Malawi was founded in 1966 and there was no democracy that time. Democracy came by these evil azungu omwe akufuna zopusa panopazi. You can lie to some people sometimes but you can not lie to all the people all the times. Shame!!!!! ntambo shame!!!! trapence

  24. Jigidijigidi Jaba says:

    Given the desensitized nature of our religions, particularly christianity, these guys will surely zero in and become triumphant in the end. I am saying Christianity is desensitized because unlike it so called “opponent religion” which does not compromise when it comes to depiction of issues like homosexuality/adultery/fornication e.t.c, these things are most played down in christianity especially when it comes to highlighting the scriptural punishments that require to meted out to those that commit them. All this is because by trying to depict “the LOVINGNESS OF GOD” they ended up in downing playing or concealing the laid out punishment. While in the case of Islam, where Muslims are in the majority and opted to implement law based on scriptures we see these things not happening. In as far as these things are concerned, we as Malawian, the so called God fearing nation, has an opportunity to bring on board things like homosexuality, prostitution, fornication, … in the penal code. By the way are Christians not in the majority in the Country? With the support of the Muslim counterparts this could have worked. After all is PAC not constituted of these groups? But because we though by hiding these things with the aim of painting a Loving God image here we are. Often times prior to the gay debate so many a people have castigated our brothers of the Islamic faith as barbarians; only because they apply the scriptural punishments to such behaviors. Must of those that have or castigate the Muslims alone such lines are Christian. Now Look Nsonda is being taken to task by just stating what the Bible says about homosexuals. By saying homosexuals must be killed it is said he has uttered a hate speech. But is not this a verse in the Bible. For me taking Nsonda to Court is a good as putting the Bible on Trial a Book full of hate speech. And for sure it is a shame that people have not seen this issues from this angle. If we really hold the Bible dearly and believe it is an inspired book then we needed to show undivided support for Nsonda. If we continue to remain insensitive the next thing we are going to here is such and such verses should not be read in churches as they are likely to incite hate or disturbance of public peace. These things have been happening with our brothers of the Islamic faith and their Qur’an and most of us have always been happy about that. If this country had Muslems in the majority the activists’ voice could have been much louder as it would have been deemed that they were dealing with e beligerent religion even though the reasons could have been the same as the ones Christians are putting forward. What we have a bigger test to the Christian faith whose followers permeate every corner of the establishments in this country, including those that are advocating for homosexuality. Is the bible a book of hate? Are we prepared to stand an watch while put those who utter verses from it are put on trial? Are going stand and see while in due course a group of people would propose textual sensorship of the book to remove the so call hate verses? ….I do not know! These are the last day for sure. Sorry for the long comment; emotions kind of overtook me.

  25. khwangwi says:

    I hope the writer is not contradicting himself. People were being arrested for performing homosexual acts. This then means that homosexuality is a crime under the Laws of Malawi.

    You are actually fighting to change the status of homosexuality from being a crime to become a human right. This so called human right is repugnant to Malawian culture and therefore a nuisance to Malawian society.

    Probably this is a human right in the West but do not elevate it to a status of being universal human right. If the Malawi culture does not recognize it as a human right, I believe it is right and proper for all homosexuals to migrate to the West in order to continue to enjoy their right.

  26. Yusuf says:

    Satana pakwawo, devil at home !!

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