First son Nic Chakwera delves into abortion debate: ‘People with no right to life’
Are there people who are alive today but had no right to live? The answer is shocking if you listen to some people.
Rev. Jesse Jackson, the famous civil rights leader, was conceived when his mother at 16 years was raped (statutory rape). According to modern pro-abortion reasoning, his mother had a right to get rid of him. In other words, he had no right to live. But the thing is, if at any point in your life you had no right to live then at every point of your life you remain without that right. Why? Because it’s an inalienable/inseparable right that cannot be added or subtracted from a human being.
Once you become a human being, you have the right to life. You cannot be a human being without the right to live today and next day you transform into a human with a right to live. You either have it or you don’t the very first instant you become a human being or a member of the Homo sapiens.
Ethel Waters, an award-winning singer who has sang in front of millions, had no right to live because she was conceived when her mom was raped at 13 years of age.
South African Pastor Solly Maghlangu of the ‘Obrigado’ fame had no right to live being conceived in rape. Pregnancies from rape are less than 2 percent of the cases, yet the children born out of those tragedies have made the world a better place and there are many. It’s not their mother’s wishes that gave them the right to life but their humanity. A mother’s wish whether to abort or to keep a child has no power to confer or withhold the right to life. A woman’s wish only has the power to violate or protect that right the baby already has intrinsically.
Nick Cannon, a renowned comedian, rapper, television host and singer Mariah Carey’s ex-husband, was almost aborted by his mother who was 17 years old and still in high school when she got pregnant with him. She went to the baby-killing clinic and changed her mind.
The modern day ‘prince of pop music’ Justin Beiber was recommended for abortion because his mom was only 17 year old. But she refused to even make it an option. The rest is phenomenal history.
Ann Durhum pregnant at 17 while just starting college had every reason to abort that child according to the pro-abortionist logic. Well, there would have been no Barack Obama. Or, shall we say, Obama has no right to live? When did he get that right if he has it?
There is another famous black gospel singer Fred Hammond who is a survivor of a failed abortion. His mom went to have an abortion and they gave her pills and a plastic bag to carry the contents back to the clinic the following day. Nothing happened that night and she was mad with the doctors who told her to just go for an operation to get rid of the baby. While she was lying on the operation table, she heard God’s voice warning her and she ran away from that table never to come back. Fred Hammond has touched millions of lives and yet he only discovered this recently.
There are many in our own country that were recommended for abortion but are alive today. There are many more who were born with disabilities and ailments that according to pro-abortion logic should be aborted if detected before birth. They too don’t have a right to live. You cannot have a right to live by accident or default just because Malawi lacks machines to detect your disability and recommend you for abortion. Right to life is not subject to such contingencies. You either have it or you don’t.
The bottom line is that we all don’t have a right to live. I mean, is there ever a case in which the woman has no right to abort? This question is going to the abortion crowd. The consistent answer according to abortion advocates is that a woman has an absolute right to abort anytime her ‘health’ is threatened. By health we mean, financial, mental, emotional, social, physical, academic, vocational etc.
There is no excuse for abortion that cannot fit into this. So, we all could have been aborted. We had no right to live if not for our mother’s wishes. Therefore, we have no right to live even now.
Let the killings begin! Let me know if you don’t think pro-abortion logic leads to that.
- The author is President Dr. Lazarus Chakwera’s first born son but has written the article in his personal capacity
Hypocrites are the ones against abortion. There are many valid reasons and situations where abortion should be the best option therefore the law wants to accommodate that. Even in the Bible, God (if you believe in God) commanded some killing depending on situations contrary to His own commandment of ” thou shalt not kill”. And mind you, Malawi is a secular country, so you religious hypocrites go and rot in the hell which you created.
There is something terribly wrong with most peoples reasoning. The very person who brought this idea of women rights to abortion was born from a woman. If this woman had the right to abort, i think this world could have a better place to live in. Life begins at conception. The art of making a human being be made into what we are is enshrined in the Lord our God. If we advocate for the killing of the unborn people, how different is that from capital punishment, which condemed world wide? Let us be serious. The harm to the unborn brought about by this staged pre-mature delivery of the baby is too much compared to the benefits of the one who aborted.
My take is that it is better to avoid pregnancy than have it and latter abort. For those who are raped and become pregnant, let there be means of treating them immediately the rape has taken place to avoid pregnancy.
Unless God should takes out His Word from Jeremiah 1:5, that says “Before you came forth out of the womb I sanctified you and ordained you a prophet “.
Guys God starts counting while the baby s inside her mothers womb. So do NOT confuse things.
Just come in the open and declare your agenda . Do not hide behind rape and others.
Malawi cant manage other health services NOW. So are you adding Abortions on request?
You want to collapse the system ?
Ladies and gentlemen.
When God says ,You shall not kill, we should not try to bend the command.
We will always be caught up if we try to trick God.
Do NOT be deceived . God is NOT mocked .Whatever a man sows that shall he reap.
We definately need tread carefully lest we pollute Mother Malawi.
Nobody is arguing that if someone is raped, then they must automatically abort the pregnancy. Nope. They should have the right to decide whether or not they want to have that baby. That’s all we’re saying. So the author should stop using his privileged position to influence this debate. Let poor women and girls have access to safe and legal abortion. Sizikukukhudzani ayi. Mxii! It’s an issue between the girl/woman, her conscience, her trusted advisers, and her god if they believe in one. Osati Nic Chakwera alowelepo pa nkhani yawo ayi. Ase!!
WHAT AN INSENSITIVE COMMENT, I DON’T THINK YOU WOULD BE HERE COMMENTING TODAY IF YOUR MOTHER CHOSE TO KILL YOU WHILST IN THE WOMB. NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO KILL ANOTHER PERSON EVEN WITH THAT FREEDOM OF CHOICE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. EVERY LIFE IS SACRED AND NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO YAKE IT AWAY EXCEPT ITS AUTHOR.
hey hey, when you have mastered the art of divorcing personalities from facts, you will enrich every debate you are in. Until then, you will keep bubbling without the benefit of the intellect.
I have to agree with you. The reverend was just expressing his ideas and did not in way force his opinion on anyone
The ten commandments are very clear. Thou shall not kill.
on the bylines
1. Make contraception widely available and accessible, and civic educate the masses on the same (contraception coverage is still miserably low!)
2. Every man should be responsible for children they sire. Government ought to find ways of making paternity tests affordable and accessible for this to be possible
3. Increase the punishment for sexual crimes
4. Set up serious and operational support services for victims of sexual and related crimes.
Now, doing all the above and other measures does not negate the importance of legalizing abortion because even if we do all the above people will still abort and hence the need for regulating these services.
Some men want abortions so much to the point they can kill their the girl they have impregnated if she dare refuse to acquiesce. It’s a shame. Stop hiding behind women’s rights to abort in order to cover your shameful behaviour! They talk about abortions as if talking to standard one pupil.
Its clear in the Bible that ” You shall not murder – Exodus 20: 13″. Let no man violate God’s principle through committing an abortion no matter what the circumstance and everyone has a right to life.
unfortunately for you the same bible also issues some outright genocidal instructions. In one place it even explicitly orders to kill witches! bottomline nobody in their right faculties would use the bible as a moral standard it simply does not hold up to the test
It’s not a simple subject. A lot of intricate views from both sides.
Lets just work hard to reduce unwanted pregnancies.
Very good comment
Well this issue is not as clear cut as we would like….there are several issues here…why abortion? Is it because of medical conditions if so the law already has the provision….is it for rape? This is the area that seems to be contentious…. Abortion is not the first option…there are issues to be addressed before that consideration..if these issues are addressed properly Abortion might not even be considered…why then are we going straight to abortion? As a society we need to review our moral standing… We have watered down our values.. speak less of christianity….these are issues been have to address first…if our value system changes issues of rape will decrease, so will in unwanted pregnancy…now with this there will be no talk of abortion…
Unfortunately we are jumping to abortion, which in itself is not a solution, after one goes through it there is emotional scaring, associated with it ask a mother who conceived and had a miscarriage…this is even compounded when the conception was as a result of rape…already the victim is traumatized…we need the God to guide us as we deal with this issue….He is ultimately the only solution we have
Instead of talking about a womans right to reproductive system, weither she decided to abort a child or not. What we need to discuss is the right to womens rights, we should be talking about the systematic idea that men feel they have the RIGHT to rape to begin with! Let us discuss the issue of women getting raped and dealing with why men are raping women to begin with! This annoys me. Happy for him his mom had him however was this her choice or the choice of her parents or she could not afford to get an abortion to begin with. So please Rev. Nic Chakwera, preach something relevant and have several seats! Mxxxiiii ( kissing my teeth )
I imagine what happened to me! There was a difference of 1 yaer with my sister. It was highly recommended that my sister should not live. My parents stood their ground and here we are both us working and supporting our siblings!
now imagine if your mom was raped and your sister was not. how would your dad, mom, and yourself feel about it. Actually how would even your sister feel that she was conceived that way.
So in your flawed reasoning she should have been killed? Life is more important than feelings my friend.
wabodzatu iwe. in life ones state of mind is everything. Sickness is a state of mind. being forced to keep a rape pregnancy can lead to extreme depression and maybe suicide.
Some things are difficult to understand. This year we had a case in which a woman, years back had sent her children to an orphanage. After many years she started looking for them trying to claim them back. Now what if the childern were aborted, where would she have gone to look for them? The best way for the women is just to have prevention measures.
This discussion has reminded me about a certain debate on MBC about the government distributing condoms in secondary schools. Some people were of the view that doing so is encouraging the youth to indulge in sexual acts, that it was encouraging fornication and therefore it was a sin.They argued that parents should take up the responsibility of disciplining their children and raise them the Christian way so that they should not engage in such sinful practices . The other team was putting the argument that although it might seem like a morally wrong idea, but we cannot deny the fact that these kids are indulging in sexual practices, some are getting STIs and some are getting pregnant, hence the need to protect them. I think this is similar to the issue being debated now. They are all sinful practices, but in the eyes of God, a sin is a sin, whether lying or killing, to God that’s a sin, no more, no less. But fact is, whether we legalise it or not, people are still doing it. Just like homesexuality is older than the malawi constitution and yet it is illegal, it’s always been there, legalising it does not make it more sinful in the eyes of God, its sinful, period.this debate can go on and on, but arguing here will not make much of a difference, if you want to make a difference go and reason with the legislators on why you think this law should or should not be passed, instead of making noise from the comfort of your home on your smartphone. It is what it is
Bwana, ma examples anu onse a azungu / America / UK basi?. Ndi ma pastor anzanu.
This matter should be left for women to decide. Ultimately it is an issue to do with the woman’s body. As much as men may argue that it is to do with life. It involves the woman’s body
Maujeni ake uyu
The people who want abortions legalised are these lustful girls and their sugar daddies running away from responsibility. If you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen, abstain from sex or wear protectives. Lots these college girls have undergone multiple rounds of abortions and they don’t need it legally for them to access the service.
actually from studies done upside of 75 percent of induced abortions occur among married women (mostly christian and lawfully wedded!)
Uhule azimayi ndi azibambo too much eish. They may hide it from the people around them but God sees all and knows all. They should be afraid of Him, Oh! wait, they are afraid of their husbands/wives and neighbors. God should help them.
You missed the whole point. All those people you have mentioned, their mothers had a choice. They is No way a raped 14,15, 16 year olds life should be derailed by having a baby. She can abort 3-4 weeks after the rape. Don’t we all men, pullout when we don’t want kids, don’t we ejaculate elsewhere?? Why shouldn’t women have that right? Don’t be a religious imbecile, hiding under the law. We go to heaven through faith in Christ not by following all the law to the letter.
Life begins when a sperm enters an egg and fertilisation occurs (Biology). A sperm on its own is not life in the same way an egg on its own is not life, that is why when fertilisation does not occur, the egg is expelled from the woman’s body and excess sperm is dissolved in a mans body and expelled. So if you talk of ejaculating outside and abortion, these are two different scenarios. In ejaculation outside, you are killing no one but when you abort, you have killed because that which you are aborting is a living thing. There are no choices when it comes to right to life because every one has a right to life.
When you say we go to heaven through faith in Jesus, what is faith in Jesus? How can you say you have faith in someone you do not follow his ways or teaching. The word of God says, THOU SHALT NOT MURDER, one of the ten commandments.
Corinthians 5:21
19 Now the work of the flesh are manifest which are these ………….
21 Envyings, MURDERS, drunkenness, revellings ……………. of which i tell you as i have also told you in time past, that they which do such things SHALL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
You know we may not understand why some of these rapes, abandonment etc happen. As hard as it is to fathom, abortion is not an option. It is sin and no two ways about it. What we are also not considering is that the abortion will have an impact on the one aborting forever. It will not take away the fact that the girl was raped but will add on to the problem because that child was and will remain a part of the mother’s life. Read stories of those who have ever aborted, they are all over the internet. The guilt of killing their child lives on in the mothers life.
Let’s hit the nail on the head. Apapa supporter wa tonse alliance wagwidwa njakata izi izi during dpp zimakanidwa ndithu lero you are trying to justify it. Dziwani kuti akulamula si ngelo amalakwa ndithu!!!!
Chiri kwamzako nde chigwire nyanga. Amuna ngati timathawa kungotchulidwa kuti wapereka mimba koma chifukwa cha” unwanted child” mpaka kupha mzimayiyo kumukwirira pansi paslab nde mzanu mumukakamize kuyenda ndi katundu osamufuna ngati munthu wamisala mwezi 9!
Men talk as if sexual intercourse is for procreation only. Sex is for fun or forced release of sexual tension (rape) such that pregnancies resulting from are deemed unwanted and a woman has every right to terminate the unborn child. An unborn child is like a tree seedling. Who has ever been accused of deforestation just because of slushing a bed of seedlings?
No one has a right to terminate a life of another. My and me we have a sixteen year difference. She conceived me when she was in std six by a young man of neighbouring village and anaikana mimbayo (ati udolo). She was young then and I was a surviver of attempted abortion. I was raised by my grandmother coz my mother married to another man and did not like me in his marrige. My grandmother raised me with difficult as she was a single mother and raised me until I graduated. My mother have other children of which I am responsible for almost in everything. None of the children had past secondary education except the last two of which I raised my self in my house and are yet to finish college. I wish my biological father was alive to see how stupid and selfish was he was. Pano pamtundu pathu akamati pali anthu olodzeka they point at me. The pro abortion camp dont really know what the future holds for that life. Paul Banda once sung “mabwana mukuonawa adakhalapo wana, makolo akadafuna kutaya pathupi bwenzi kulibe.”
Even now without legalizing abortion. People still carry out abortion. Why do you have to say about this? This is just the same as LGBT rights? They are there in our communities. Do we bury our heads in the sand and ignore the existence of the problem? Or we raise up to the occasion and find long-lasting solutions to the problems? I prefer taking the problem head on.
The pregnant u abort you never know how almighty God had blessed that child you want to terminate. So its Gods will for you to get pregnant. Some they are crying for babies moving up and down seaking help for them to get pregnant. And God blessed you for you never face problems in getting pregnant. Dont you know that getting pregnant its Gods blessing?
NyasaTimes this is a bad precedent to allow President’s family to write opinions.
You mention people with disabilities: could have been nice to know how they feel depending on severity of their problem, some need advanced medical care just to manage pain. Case in point , Marieke Vervoot who went for euthnesia last year. she was a successful paraolympian who could no longer deal with the pain.
Remember this is a country where people hang themselves for a lot of reasons but people blame the girlfriend or some weird stuff.
Survivor bias: Ofcourse our moms wishes are the reason we are well today. unfortunately some of these mothers should have gone to the clinic. Am talking those who end up offering their kids as part of the deal,those who abandon them after birth. Kids matter after they are born too.
Does our current economical and political environment guarantee a change of fortunes or the mother would have to turn tricks at the corner store. Am not saying financial reasons are the only justification but it is my belief that a parent sets a flow on the quality of life at early ages.
Some people are just not ready, sorry to all the embryos.
Studies have shown that with more education and wealth people prefer contraception. But we know where we are in this issue
First Son should hammer that sense to his father’s thick skull, not us. We are just ordinary people, our MPs should duscuss this matter with due diligence. The same MPs that passed the 50 plus 1 idiot law should also reject this bill. There is no need to be writing articles to and for us as if we are the ones that make laws. Tell your father to tell his MPs how to vote on the matter. Some of us have enough common sense to raise our children, not kill them, as some Tonse idiots are about to do. Anthu awa anapanga miscarriage of justice at a national level, angalephele bwanji kupanga ma abortion at a personal or household level. Instead of 1 million jobs, now they are busy talking about 1 million abortions.
This is a very good article will make most people, particularly women, think twice before supporting the imminent Abortion Bill. Have really a right to end a human life?
For us Christians; let us go back and reflect the circumstances in which our Lord Jesus Christ came into human form on Earth. We will surely realise that certain things happen beyond human comprehension; but they happen with a purpose. I know the Pastor has not touched this directly because of the dignity of his position. Even not yet born, what a woman carries within the nine months or so, remains a life.
Have you ever been raped??? Has your 12 year old daughter been raped? Osamalemba zopusa kumanamizila mulungu. We go to heaven through faith in Christ
Amen! Awa they should talk to us after their 10yr old daughter has been raped. They should try forcing their 10yr daughter to keep the pregnancy after enduring such a traumatic experience. Why do people meddle into other peoples businesses in the ne of God?
very true
the question is about right of life of the aborted not the right to abort or not.
What about the mother’s life. Iye simunthu
I think you are the one missing a point. If a woman refuses to abort nothing would really happen. If you are a man I do not think you have an idea of how to be pregnant. A man violent or muscular he may be BUT if the woman says NO it will be No. We sensitise women becoz they are the carrier of the pregnancy. Nick has just given examples to realities. Men will scare women running away from responsibility and shame. But I feel we should find ways on how we would help those women falling into this situation than resorting to abort the babies who have no rights since they would not talk for their right please.
njirazo bwana zili kutilo.panopa? we are where we are because njira mukunenazo kulibe or zakanika.
Going by the author’s thinking line, it means Men have the right to sire Children (better termed as offsprings)even with Dogs and Goats.
How is kuwazila outside the vagina any different from abortion???? Don’t we all men ejaculate outside the women we don’t like or don’t want to have kids With? Let’s not be hypocrites. Let’s say your imbecile 15 year old son, impregnates his 12 year old sister after masanje, what then??
John Chindongo, it’s impossible for a human to sire a child with a non-human.
Apo mwanenako momveka bwino ngakhale ziki mikuluwiko. Abortion sikufunika popanda zifukwa zinene. Zopereka chiopsezo kwa amai kapena lwa mwana. Koma mongonena kwandithe ndithe ngati muja ananerapo Bingu za ma gay kuti Chikhalidwe ndi mpingo wake sizivomereza zoterezo. Komanso mumanga ma Ophanage yoti ana amene sakufunidwawo azakaperekedwa kumeneko poti tati ali ndi ufulu wokhala ndi moyo asatayidwe. Adzisunga mimbazo akabereka adzikapereka kumeneko
I struggle to understand the arguments of the pro-abortinists.If rape is a premise for allowing abortion someone has to help me understand the logic.Rape is a crime, pipo commit crimes for a number of reasons.I don’t find reasoning and a connection in allowing abortion as a remedy to rape.Allowing abortion can never be a deterrent to rape.Why are we not advocating castrating men of their members for raping?Why are we not investing more in issues of mental health to enlighten men of the ills of raping.? Why are we inclined so much to killing? Kupha ma unborn babies sikukhala kosiyanatu ndi kupha anzathu a chi alubino.
people have been raping since forever so this educating people can never stop them basi. Do you think they don’t know that raping is bad?
funso labwino kwabasi
Those who are advocating for abortion law in Malawi hear this: do you know that abortion is sin because it leads to the killing of an innocent soul? I understand there are exceptional cases warranting abortion according to health experts and regulations such that those who may fall victim can go ahead to seek abortion under current regulations. However, i am deeply shocked and disturbed with the manner how certain ‘estranged’ civil society are drumming up support for legalisation of free for all abortion in Malawi. My first question is that to whose interest are they advocating that satanic agenda? I for one strongly oppose this scheme and it is high time Govt dealt with this issue finally. I appeal to our honourable MPs to unanimously reject that bill if it pokes its nose in Parliament. Malawi as a nation strives to be in total submission to God and we cannot risk disappointing GOD now. Mulungu amakwiya ndi anthu osamva (Isaiah 57)
don’t be a saint here. muli ndi machimo migolomigolo asaaa. The current law only defends abortions when the mother is currently in danger. There are other situations where the mom just cannot mentally deal with it . E.g rape but she can’t abort. What do you expect her to do
I hear you; but stealing is also sin, yet there has been so much plunder of government resources through corruption. The Church, (Religion) remains mum on the subject.In drafting a law, you look at all citizens and not trying to shew a hollier-than-thou strategy. In a country, there are bound to be some group of no religion living pretty well and without sin. The law should apply to all.
Unfortunately, Malawi has opted to severe it’s God fearing past and upgraded to the Western version of religion.
Please know that prior to (Western) Christianity, people with abnormalities – albinos, people with physical or mental deformities, were secretly removed from society, not all marriages were by consent. It wasn’t as “God-fearing” as you think. That is why Christianity and Islam made better sense. They were not forced on Malawians.
trouble with religion is that it is nearly always bias on consequentialism, (sic). Society needs to deal with reality of life’s consequences. How many times have the denials of human rights by a thief that torments someone in their own home; plunders their hard earned valuables only to remain on police wanted list, (at large!). And when the post traumatic stress becomes too much and the homesteader commit suicide; we all point the finger of blame at him for taking own life.
Shouldn’t we be factoring in the trauma and consequence of a life catastrophically damaged and changed by the events. It is very hard to grow a thick skin and weather the storms and stigma of finger pointing and Chinese whispers that rape victims face. Theirs is a life changing experience lived each and every day. The brave ones that raise the young get confronted by their perpetrators every minute of their lives. No one can imagine what life is like for these victims. And no amount of song and dance comes close.
Time heals, but we should also accept that some wound never heal on the inside! This is why we need laws, good laws that serve all citizens without pressure of religious bias.
This is very touching. I will not comment on whether still born babies have rights of what so ever kind.
However the author has not said anything about many many children living in poverty or died in childhood just because the mother failed to care for them due to lack of care being without a father.
He has not also said about many many mothers who have died because of the conditions induced by still born babies. These mothers leave behind husbands and children who lack motherly care and sometimes when the husband remarries these children suffer in the hands of their step mums.
Please lets consider this too.
As a man you have no right to even be discussing this issue. it is the preserve of a woman. Yes a woman who has been raped absolutely has the right to terminate a pregnancy because she may not be in a state of mind to handle it. it is unfortunate that the child is innocent however not everything in this world is black and white.
The list of those who turned out okay after such difficult backgrounds is long as is the list of those who did not turn out okay, only the latter is far much longer. But this is besides the point. In fact way off the mark. Legalizing abortion is about recognizing that people will abort nonetheless and that we should make sure that these abortions happen in a relatively safer environment. It is not about sanctioning murder.
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