Malawi civil servants’ pay rises: 45 percent
Malawi Government has increased salaries for civil servants by an average of 45 per cent after public service trade unions rejected a 24 percent average wage increment .
The Civil Servants Trade Union (CSTU) and Teachers Union of Malawi (TUM) counter offered a 50 percent salary hike.
Government Negotiating Team leader Ben Botolo said if government were to accept the counter-offer, the Malawi economy would collapse.
In a circular dated 14th October 2014 from the Human Resource Management Department, the new salaries reflecting 45 percent have been approved effective 1st October 2014.
“I am pleased to inform you that Government has approved the revision of salaries for employees in the civil service with effect from 1st October 2014,” reads the memo signed by Director of Human Resource Management Hilary Chimota, on behalf of Secretary for the department, Sam Madula to all Principal Secretaries and Heads of Departments.
The circular has however said there will be no annual increment on 1st December.
“The increment date for all civil servants remains 1stDecember. However, there shall be no annual increment on 1st December 2014,” it reads.
The increments are in grades R, M, J, K and I.
According to the circular, in the main civil service the salary range for Grade R is now K493, 296 to K501, 756 per annum from a salary range of K365, 400 to K371, 700 per annum.
Grade M will be getting a salary range of K660, 960 to 684,288 from the old salary range of K489, 600 to 506,880.
Those in grade K have had their salaries raised from the range of K720, 720 to K840, 720 to the salary range K987, 384 to K1, 151,784.
Civil servants in grade J will be getting salaries ranging from K1, 301,244 to K1, 525,584 from a salary range of K1, 256,328 to K1, 454,568.
Grade I civil servants will now be getting a salary range of K2,135,760 to K2,472,780 from the range K1,256,328 to K1,454,568 per annum.
Grade R, M, J and K are where most teachers and police officer are, while Grade I is where first degree holders are placed.
According to the circular, the salaries will be paid from a vote on personal emoluments in the government departments.
“Controlling Officers are advised that the new salaries should be paid from the provision under personal emoluments. Where any expenditure is likely to be incurred, the Secretary to the Treasury should be contacted without delay,” reads the circular.
According to Centre for Social Concern, the basic needs basket for a family of four ranges between K113 000 and K130 000 per month.
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Timuyitane mwiniwake azititsogolera,kunjako nzimene mukukatengako?anzanutu sakumapanga tikuzionazi.
Ichi mchifukwa chake malawi is the poorest countries on the land. Akuti if they accept the 50% our economy will collapse yet million of kwachas is going into these greedy leaders. It is only gods kingdom that will bring good and perfect governance.
Dzikoli likufuka munthu olamulira wachifundo oganizira anthu osauka apo bii waku jon basi kuthawa mbava zoyendetsa dziko
remember to pay arrears for teachers who were promoted to PT2 in 2011
remember to pay arrears for teachers who were promoted to PT2 IN 2011.THE INCREMENT IS ATLEAST FAIR , GUD FOR A START
Kodi grade L yomwe pali aphunzitsi ambiri no increament? Your reply is highly needed.
Mphawi sazatukukabe mpana kale. Muzimvabe kukoma ndi inu nomwe akumipando yonona inu
Chomwe sindikumvets ndichomati kuyambira pa 1 October, kodi finacial year yayamba kumayambira October? Mesa hike ili consistent ndi new budget? Nde July- September zili mu chaka chiti?
ikufunika apa ndi harmonization, osati zimenezi
Increment yokomera akumipando okhaokha iyi. Meaning to say amphawife tizingosaukabe kugwira ntchito ngati ykugwira ganyu.
ZIKOMO. KOMA WORK ON FULL BOARD. WE DO NOT WANT FULL BOARD PLEASE.
Mukukama yowonda mwadzikonda anthu olakhula awatseka pakamwa.
mapazi anu nose mukudana ndi APM
NO 94! IWE NDI MBUZI WHY ARE YOU SAYING APM/DPP HAVE DONE WHEN YOU WHOLESOMELY KNOW THAT ITS THE WORK OF CSTU AND TUM?WERE YOU NOT THERE THREE WEEKS AGO WHEN MPHEPWA ZINZAKOZO WERE TALKING OF 24%? TISAKUMANE NDIKUPONDA
ANTHU KUZIPOPA NDI 45% YET JB ANAKWEZ NDI 61% PITA PITA CHANI TAONA MAYI JB IFE.KODI APHUNGU NANU MWANGOKHALA CHETE CHIFUKWA CHOKANIRIDWA 500% IJA?MAPAZI ANU MWANVA! PALIBEPO BOMA APA BOLA MAYI OMWE AJA AMAKAMBIKA IZI NDIYE MPHWEPWA ZA ANTHU,KUVUTIDWA KULANKHULA NDI KUGANIZA KOMWE ETI? VOTE INABEDWA KUKAPATSA UTSOGOLERI CHIMZIMU CHENICHENI KKKKKK
Iwe Chaweza Banda zinazo ukawafunse ambuyako akupase. APM wapanga mbali yake
ma comment ali apa ambiri ndi ama bulutu ma civil servant. Munthu wabwino mukufuna inuyo akhale otani. Munthu wa kukonzani koma inu mukungolila ngati tia khwezule. Now I understand Bingu. Malawians sumizakonzeka. Come on say thanks to APM say thanks to government. period. Ndisamvenso macomment opusa apa. Mundimva
Koma Boma limeneli linali kuti? Likuoneka kuti litisunga. inu ma civil servant ingolimbikilani ganyuyo. Mwina chaka cha mawa APM akhoza kukukonzaninso mukamutenga bwino.
DPP Oyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
APM Oyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Boma Ilooooooooo. Haters where are you DPP/APM has made it what do you say?????????? DPP for life
Those speaking against this development are trying to discourage APM’s government and no doubt are people who are supporters of either MCP or PP. PP did not do this when they were in government, keep it up APM you are the one we have been looking for
Zmene munkafuna a malawi..ztsiru, mitu yanu.
Please civilised civil servants scrutinise the pay rise. Grade I 70% but L 35% where most primary teachers are. Rejoice you on I but woes for grade L. Sukulu yochepa ndalama yochepa. DPP woyee!
Sukulu yochepa ndalama zochepetsetsa!!!
they said will raise up to 80% palibe chimene achita
Shaaaa koma boma ili!!!!!!!!!! pitilizani zili
musheee
Grade L?
Green Muheya should be the lowest grade journalist who just fabricates stories without evedence. How come you say that the increments are in grades R,M,J,K,I when the circular has talked about ALL GRADES? Is you aim to discredit APMs hard working, listening and sympathetic government? Please give credit where it is due.
Welcome Government and MCTU for the efforts and acceptance BUT your eyes/ears should also focus on other Malawians who are working in private sectors. Many companies are still offering lower salaries to their employees tho the cost of living is so expensive. We are all Malawians and deserve the same protection from all angles of life. Go in companies and ask employees at random, u will regret and fill sorry. No any other privileges are given to such employees except a lower salary wage. I can assure u and challenge the MCTU that their eyes are just focused on but few individuals. Help
Koma tax yokhayo ndiye kukhala kuimva, koma congrats Malawi govt, this is what is supposed to be done, but am not clear on annual increment,kuti it will not be considered is it going to be this year alone?
AMAFUNA ZIMENEZO ABOMAWO .PAMENE OGWIRA NTCHITO AKUVUTIKA NDI UMPHAWI .NGAKHALE ZILI CHONCHO ZINTHU SIZILIBE BWINO KONSE AYI.PAMAFUNIKA ATAONJEZERA 150%OSATI 45%YAWOYO AYI
Mwachitazo anthu inu a UNION kuvomera za chamba ngati zimenezi mutimva! Pa capihal Hill tinagwirizana chiani Agalu inu? Mesa tinati boma lisanatulutse circular yachambayo mudzabwere kaye pa FREEDOM PARK kuti tidzakuuuzeni maganizo athu, lero mwadyetsedwa mabanzi!!!!. Musadzabwerenso pa capital hill tidzakugendani ndi miyala mudziwanso!!!! Athu achamba inu!
Shyaaa. tina0ombera mfiti manja.
KODI MUKUSEKERERA ZIMENEZI ANTHUNI?!!!! Ine zikundimvetsa chisoni. Ma Parliamentarians go away without tax and pamenepa ife we will be taxed heavily. Whats the reason for us to be happy. Pliz use another formula chifukwa tonsefe we are Malawian citizens. Why should others go away without paying tax. This should stop forthwith. Think of the loan which Parliamentarians have been given. Am gathering that they will pay half of the loan in five years and you and me will pay off the other half. What is the justification here? There is a lot which is not being exposed in the government which benefit only the few. But why??????? Transparency is needed here.
Ngati Mulungu amaloola zinthu ngati izi , akudalitseni, ngati izi mulungu sanakondwe nazo tiziona kumene zithele . Musaiwale miyoyo ya wanthu imene ikuvutika pazimene mwachita.Zoona inuyo mufuna kuchita zomwe anzanu aja adayamba kuchita? ndimulungu yemweyo amene atimasulenso ngati mmene anatimasulira nthawi ija.Pitilizani ,mulungu aliko ,muziona zomwe mulungu wa anthu amene akuzunzikawa amachita. zikomo dzikondeni choncho. Who Approved this ? pliz let Malawians Know
Kip it up, tho musamadikile kukakamizidwa, may b enanu simudziwa kuti grade I is a graduate entry point, the graduate salary increament is understandable, it was pathetic! How can a graduate be given 84 000 per month, atleast now it makes sense, the lower grades deserve that increament since they got a lions share in previas incriments while higher grades got peanuts. Mathematically, if lower grades get a lions share every annum, it means time would com when their salarez shal b equal to those on higher grades! That wud b nonsense!
Thanks!
At least, welcom.
why more 4 the well paid and less 4 the least paid?what about grade L? how come 15PERCENT 4 GRADE M and 37percent 4 grade k? We need an explanation.
well done koma achepetse kuba ma civil servants how can u increase 45% for cash g
aters coz they either participated or looked the other way while looting happened
Mwayamba bwino, keep it up, but next time dont wait for a looming strike. If u maintain a good track record i see Dpp ruling up to end times. bravo CSTU, TUM, GNU AND THE MIGHTY DPP. SIMA CHANGE AMATIPATSA UYU CASHGATE WOMAN TAPILIKITSA PA 20 MAY UJA
APM woyeee! Ngati ndizoona DPP lamulilani MW mpaka 60yrs. Chofunika ndikuganizirana malipiro basi. Ndalama yomweyo imathandidza amayi thumba la feteleza, fizi ya nephew komanso family yanga. Pulezidenti adziganizira anthu ake. Onyodza tsadzatsiya ngakhale mutawagulira ndege.
Better
Thats atlease understandable,
Not bad! Congratulations to the present government
Good government, thanks to DPP listening President.
Kukweza akweza koma msokho ndi zinthu zonse zikwela. Musasangalale chifukwa ndalama mzalandilasozomwezija. Unless zinthu ndi msokho zikale popanja. Zinthu zayamba kale ku kwela.
izi ndye zachamba,tiamba kunyanyala ntchito muona
Kteroku cstu ndi tum muziti bola, chosecho mwava no annual increament come december , sikutipusitsa uku ? ndiyeno chilima aziti wakoza, A Mbex akadadziwa sadakachita chimwana chija, a mkaliradi zoona, adaona izi m’maso mphenya ake ,kt kalanga ine ndaponya amalawi pamoto!
where is the difference going to come from after the budget was passed with 24%? Definately our mps are of no use when approving the budget. There was also an issue regarding the office of assets declaring which has been given 150million after the budget was passed, that alone smacks of hidden funds that can be abused by the finance minister with his cohorts. School me on these extra funds that were not budgeted for.
It has to be implemented!
Oh my word, cry the beloved country. How are civil servants surviving with these meagre salaries? No wonder corruption is rampant.
Saulos, you are coming from the private sector, you need to do something about civil seervant salaries.
Bravo
Better than none. Olo zili zosakwanira
Kodi grade yanga ilipati apa?koma ambuye apapokha mwandionjeza,zoona ine osaziwa ndalama zanga zoonjezela?
Koma abale kuli makobili, Ine Muphnzitsi pamenepa basi mowa ndiututa osati masewera. Kuli Kumwaaaaaaaaa! Chaka chake ndichino Ndalama zitipha zimenezi, Zonse tayaleeeeee Mahule odiiiiiii ukooooo!!!!! Mowa udi uko !!!!!!!!!!!!!, Go konko::::::::::::::::::::: Ndiututa osanyengerera………
Boma lautsiru Vindalama vonsevi nvachani? Tingophikika basi.!!!!!!
Ngati Boma likukanika kulipila ma Civil servants ukatha mwezi,ndiye ndi increment anthu owerengeka azilandila pa chakatu. Ma civil servant omwewo cannot deliver kuti malipilo azipelekwdwa moyenera. Anthu a mboma amanyadila chifukwa ambiri cannot deliver amangopitila kuntchito dzina. No wonder we are not developing. Total mess. Reform needed. Malawi is loosing alot of money. But partly govt is to blame.
tiuzeni bwino,bwino zamagradewo, pamenepa grade yofunikira ndi iti?
I mean the 7% that the Big fish gave the civil servants last year. while she was into Mudzi Fund, A cow a family and many other cash gate activities.
Peter has tried and indeed this is what people expected.
Thjs sounds very nice indeed. This comes in sharp contrast to the 75 that the chief Cash gater JB gave the civil servants last year.
Nanga grade L mwaitani abale?
Tipitiriza kuba to meet the basic needs range!
Palibe kusitha kwenikweni2 apa!
Ee! Bola pamenepo
Zoona anzathu aboma akuyang’aniraniko zikomo. Nanga boma lithandiza bwanji ogwira ntchito kwa amwenye machina kaya ma ningeria omwe amayang’aniridwa ndi ma bwana osaphunzira ndikumachitiridwa nkhaza mum’dziko lawo lomwe. Kodi boma silimaona momwe amathaziridwa azathu monga Zambia kaya Moshiko pompa. Ife amene tiri ku amwenye ma china kaya ma Ningeria kuli mavuto akulu koma boma ndi otsutsa palibe chomwe mumachita pofuna kupulumutsa anthu anu omwe akuyang’aniridwa ndi ma bwana osaphuzira poti mumati ndi akunja. Zovetsa chinsoni aMAlAWI
thas better however delayed implementation usually attracts unpaid arrears
Bolakotu pamenepa
Where is grade L?
Where is grade L? Again how much will be deducted? Mukadulaso kwambiri tiwonana muma Demonstrations.
mhu! Kaya
does MG KNOW the BASIC NEEDS BASKET FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR per month?
Think of the ones who perform most of duties(grade j,k and l).Then assist them to upgrade to upper grade.
chilungamo APA pali be. ukambelembele ungathe choncho m’bomamu? why the less privileged wanna get peanuts? mark my words. juniors will surely pick anything that comes nearer. CHAUTA sapeleka pamanja
Ma arreaz anga mundipatsa coz i worked, sweat 4 it. Ndalama mukuona kuchulukazo ziti? Ma change omwewa? Why inu mumapatsana 5million per head , inu a DPPulendo wa ku UK. Pitala usamale, zikuonekera zoopsya. Amaitu tinawavula mwadra ndiye iwe kaya, civil servant akakwiya, zako zada. Ma arreaz anga okhawo undipatsa! Opanda mano mkamwa iwe, Bububu!
Chabwino palibe apa
Grade L it means is within the range of grade m
Zofuna Mbendera ndi azake a court aja zitsiru ,kufuna ktpweteketsa basi ,chilima alikt? Nanga zasinthanji apa ,ogwira ntchito amalandira change ,tikangolowa m,boma tikoza , ndiye kumeneku kukoza kapena kuononga? Ali ndi tsoka amene amene adabereka iweyo citsiru ndi amako omwe osaiwala amene adagona ndi amakoyo iweyo chilima, peter mbendera ndi nonse amene mumachemelera chipani chonunkhachi.
tell us what the salary shall be like ?
Why not those in grade L? What government has done here is like pouring water in lake from river. Why balooning an already balooned baloon instead of baloonig unbalooned one. The lives of these L graded wont improve anhow if government wont increase their salaries. Kodi mukufuna kuti osauka adzingosaukirabe? Ali ndimabanja please consider them.
Ndiye kuti misonkho pano ndaramazo zibwereranso ku boma konko. Goodall is not friendly to the civil service. Remember his greedy formulae that he introducec that time. On welfare of civil servant, DPP really goofs
AM AN EXTENSION WORKER(MLANGIZI WA AGRICULTURE)they shud expect fake crop estimate figure thus stupid they dnt count us bt they forget kuti ndife amane timathandiza kuti chipite patsolo pophunzitsa alimi njira zamakono.peter munthalika n ua dpp government u r fools idiots. ndaleka kpita kufield report ndizingolembela labodza agalu inu.salary yanga less than msonkho wamzanga wa DIPLOMA 4rm NRC amene ali ku NGO .OGALU ONYANI OFOKOFO DEMETI SHUPIT
kaya magradewo these are the same pipo stealing our tax we pay mukanawapatsa 2 percent nanga 45 then cashgate pompo……zandiwawa ine kampani kungondipatsa ka 10 percent basi …….akamangidwa 3yrs ndalama angokumbila pansi azazipeza kumaseka
Kodi mukungokakamila ndalamazi kutipatsa pang’ono ngati ndizakunyumba kwanu bwanji?
Good effort from the Goverment otherwise our economy will suffer if we ask for more. We should not compare ourselves with neighbouring countries on salaries because we have different economies. I agree that not most civil servants will be dedicated to their work even if the adjustment was 100 percent. Let us learn to appreciate what we receive. Avoid writing zotukwana pa social media ngati apa. We should remember that one day we will face God ready to judge us.
Koma kodi chaka cha boma chayamba liti? why first october? civil servants beware.
aboma inu tikuti grade L ipezekepo otherwise mmalo mwa progress ntchito ibwelera mmbuyo mark my words
Kodi inu a boma ma grade ena ali kuti? Apa zikuoneka kuti mwasankha okhawo olandira zochepekerako. Mukufuna ife tinyaudenso ?
eeeee!!!!!! koma ndalama zitipha guyz, zachulukitsa kikikikikikikiest!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Civil servants should not expect economic relief under DPP + Goodall. Have you forgotten the tribulations you suffered under Bingu + Goodall? Have you forgotten how the calculations for pensions and gratuities were changed and people made to believe that the change was in their interest? If you wanted economic relief you should never have voted for DPP again. Now that you did, you had dug your own economic grave and you’ve got to lie in it for a considerable length of time until you wise up. This 45% is cosmetic and phantom – it won’t translate into anything that can take you out of economic dungeon. You lost the opportunity to change your lives for the better on the day you voted for nasty APM. Receive your 45%, whatever that means to you, and don’t cry.
Mufa ndi nsanje akulu inu. Zanu izo. Ife its ok we understand.
Eish
What about grd L?
Does it mean that previously those on grade J and I were on the same salary scale. I think the figures are not right. Most salary scales are not coming up to 45% as reported. Please revisit the figures.
kodi abakha inu mukungolimbana ndi a m’boma kodi nanaga ife mutithandiza bwanji omwe timagwira maprivatife ?
Chonde ndiyang’anileni, kodi ma peshioner muwapatsa zingati? Ziwani ichi inu amene muli pantchito ndi ma penshioner nonse mumakhala mu ma city, nonse mukulipira magetsi, madzi, mafuta, dstv, mafoni koma inu a kuntchito mumakwezelana nokhanokha kuiwala ma penshioner amene amalandira ndalama zochepa kwambili komanso ndikumadulidwa msonkho. Nkhanza!
The private sector should follow suit otherwise it will be strikes through out. The lazy civil servants have been given salary increments and a 30 minute working hour reduction and the private sector still has nothing to offer us. Ladies and Gentlemen in the private sector, this is time to act. It is now or never. Civil servants are doing very little.
I am not a civil servant nor I am an employee of a private company. I just wanted to clarify one misconception here. While many civil servants may be lazy, I have these days noted a growing trend of extremely lazy, mediocre and dreamy private sector employees.
They are too lazy but are just hiding in the comfort groups of NGOs and private sector organizations. Just look around and you will see.
If I had my own company I would look for and employ civil servants and just train and pay them well, not the current crop of private servants (sic)
Thats a good nod from government. We will now work, work, work and work
Zikusiyana ndi chenje mumanena cija?
At east bima should explain where the other grades are, like L, P, N etc. shud we say chaka chaboma chasintha chiziyamba 1st October? mmmm this government is not practising transparency and accountability…akubisanji kodi? But pay civil servants in as far as the skyrocketting economy is, in malawi….I rest my case.
Ndie after kuchotsa msonkho, mukundisiyilako zingati pamenepa?
JB anali mayi wa fuko moti apa akanati akweza kuyamba pa 1st July pompopompo zopanda ma arreas koma muona mbavi choyamba sapereka salary iyo mwezi uno kenaka sapereka msanga ma arreas DPP ndi boma la mbava zoopsa mpake a IMF aona
JB siuja anationjezera K3000.Bolanso awa ndithu.
Bowe f.p. sukulu
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Dowa.
23 ogasiti 2001
Sharp to sharp Dorofe
Kaya watandala bwanji ngati watandala bwino zikomo kwambiri.
Ndalemba kalatayi
kuti ndikufotokozele kuti lero ndakhala kusukulu chifukwa choti ndikukazinga chimanga choti ndidzakutengele kusukulu mawa komanso ndikufuna ndikagulitse mbewa zomwe ndinakapha dzulo chifukwa paja umati pilikoti yako idatha chilezi ndiye ndimafuna ukagule ina.
Pomaliza tikumana mawa kusukulu koma nkhani ija ndidakuuza ija pepani pachiwelu itheke chifukwa chibwezi chidayambika kalekale ndiye ndiwo zikapsa amalawa.
Ndatha ine wako uja!
Kkkkkk!!!
We need salary adjustments not increaments to meet our needs zoona ma change awa when a primary teacher in neighbouring country starts with K85 000! Don’t worry its Work As You Earn thus Malipiro ochepa kugwira ntchito yochepa. Woyendera abwera ndipamene kusonyeza mphamvu akapita Work As You Earn. Amen
Upgrade urself, bola masiku ano kuli ma university ambiri. Just be greatful and do your part.
ikani net income osati gross. mufuna abusa atinene kuti sitikupereka 10% eti
zinthu zatani?muvekere zasintha machende phwiii atakupusitsani anvekere no annual increment and effective from december ma arrears anu a july till september zero angophatikiza ndi annual increment basi anvekere 45%,thats why l hate goodall gondwe he is nothing but a cruel
JULY TO SEPTEMBER ARREARS ZILIKUTI? MUTICHIMWITSATU INU.TINYANYALA NTCHITOYI. TERE INE NDAYAMBAPO. STUPID AND IDIOTS.
Working in Malawi Government is the most antagonizing encounter one can ever have in life…
Business man ali safe!
Boza iwe, Vindalama vonsevi!!! Ine Muphunzitsi muzanu ndayamikira. Aaaaaah Vitipengetsa mapeto vimenevi
ine ndachoka pa k48000 kufika pa k59000 zopusatu mupangazi.
they have their own ways.why not with effect from 1stJuly?
bas4 mwagwetsa boma lija ndalama azitenga kuti
Better than the 24%
Civil servants complain that their performance is low because their salaries are low too. This increase is substantial. The truth is GoM nor the service seekers should not expect any improvement in civil servant performance because increase in Salaries do not necessariry lead to improvements in worker productivity. Health workers had 52% increase in salaries and that did not improve services in the health facilities. Judges and other judiciary staff have had nearly 100% salary increases, the judiciary remain mediocre. In the future GoM should make salary increases conditional on performance improvements, otherwise its just more waste of scarce resources.
Where is grade L?
Volunteering work in civil service,kamswahala aka ndiye ndi insult.P/a ndalama yomweyo wina akulandila pamwenzi umodzi okha atelemu tiona akutilanda apa ndi msonkho wa 80%.
Zachamba eti chaka cha boma ndi 1st July inu mukuti 1st October.
Mukutinso no annual increment pa 1st December?
Ndiye mwangotipusitsatu ndi 24% yomwe ija ndiye ma arrears athu a July to Sept komanso annual increment ya December ndi zomwe afikitsa average ya 45%
Gudo ndi khuluku guyz
But paye should overshoot. You silly guys are good @ deductions. We will still demonstrate. Now the remaining agenda is qota system which will result into fedelism
Ma analyst a kwathu amenewo. University analyst kulankhula mmalo mwa zipani. Eni ake ati ndi coalition,inu mukuti ayi. Ndinu wa UDF or DPP kodi?
This comment is misplaced you idiot
@ nyekhulira
So what?. Go and hung