Defiant Msonda challenges court action over call to kill gays in Malawi

January 9, 2016 Wanga Gwede- Nyasa Times 84 Comments

People’s Party (PP) spokesperson Ken Msonda has challenged human rights groups seeking to drag him to court over his remarks that gays should be killed, stressing he is ready to face and shame them in court.

Msonda: I am ready to face them in court and shame them for the satanic homosexuality
Msonda: I am ready to face them in court and shame them for the satanic homosexuality

Centre for the Development of the People (Cedep) were seeking to press criminal charges against Msonda for his remarks.

“There are elements of a grave criminal offense all over his utterances and we are asking the police to arrest him,” Cade’s executive director, Gift Trapence said.

Cedep and Centre for Human Rights and Rehabilitation (CHRR) have lodged a criminal lawsuit against Msonda for inciting violence against homosexuals in Malawi which contravenes Section 124 of the country’s Penal Code.

CHRR director Timothy Mtambo said Msonda should answer a charge of incitement to break the law under section 124 (1) (b) of the Penal Code.

The Section states that “any person who, whether in writing or by words or by his behaviour or otherwise— (a) solicits or incites any other person to fail to comply with or to contravene any law in force in Malawi or in any part thereof; or (b) indicates or implies to any person that it would be incumbent or desirable to fail to comply with or to contravene any such law, shall be liable to imprisonment for five years”

According to the Section, claims that one’s incitement could not lead to actual violence cannot be used defence.

Mtambo said any call to kill a group of people because of their lifestyle is criminal.

The human rights groups are taking Msonda to court after the Malawi Law Society – an umbrella organization of all lawyers in the country –said Msonda’s words constituted hate speech and called on the state funded Human Rights Commission and police to investigate.

‘This irresponsibility takes an unacceptably different turn when political leaders and opinion makers take the lead in inciting actual violence against fellow citizens,’ MLS president John Suzi Banda said in a statement.

‘Calling on members of the LGBTI community to be killed is hate speech and is not protected by the Constitution. It is in fact criminal.’

But Msonda is defiant, saying he is prepared to meet human rights groups in court, calling homosexuality “this satanic, doggish and demonic act.”

“Malawians have been suspecting that some homosexuals are using our innocent young boys and girls for their personal interest,” he said.

Msonda claimed homosexuals who have all along been hiding behind human rights are now being exposed.

“I call upon the Inspector General of Police to immediately arrest homosexuals hiding behind human rights because they are inciting citizens to break the law. Homosexuality is a criminal offence in Malawi, those involved in this act are arrested, sentenced to 14 years IHL,” said Msonda.

Msonda also hit back at the Malawi Law Society (saying it is misleading the public on homosexuality rights.

But reacting to the statement, Msonda on Tuesday said MLS was “misleading” the nation regarding the rights of homosexuals.

Msonda said: “Whatever I said is not a slip of my tongue, gay practice remains sinful and God can condemn this nation if it is to be legalized, go back to them and tell them to go to hell.”

Government recently suspended its anti-homosexual law ahead of review on whether to repeal it altogether.

Justice Minister Samuel Tembenu said the moratorium on Malawi’s anti-gay laws, which see sexual conduct between men punishable by up to 14 years imprisonment, would remain in place until review.

In the meantime, police have been told not to arrest anyone engaged in homosexual activity.

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84 replies on “Defiant Msonda challenges court action over call to kill gays in Malawi”

  2. Trapence and company shame on you,mwadzindikira liti za homo?’You are a disgrace .You should be wiped

  3. Kodi Mukuoma Kuti Mulungu Analakwitsa Polenga Mwamuna Ndi mkazi Pa Chiyambi Paja…..? Ngati Mwayankha Kuti EYA Simukusiyana Ndi Agalu,kodi Zikanakhala Zinakhazikitsidwa Kale Kale Lija,Bwezi Iweyo Utabadwa?Amsonda Inuyo Muli Boo!!! Akapezekadi Tizingozinga Makosi

  4. I am impressed by Mr. Msonda’s courage regarding LGBTIs practices in Malawi.

    I am also impressed by the courageous spirit demonstrated from time to time by the Catholic Bishops. They recently refused to accept cash offers, during an audience with the President and suggested that the money should instead be used to support patients and guardians in hospitals with meals. They also told the President that homosexuality is sin and should not be allowed in our nation.

    Good examples of courageous people in the HOLY BIBLE are Nathan and Samuel. These courageous servants of GOD, both condemned Kings David and Saul in the face when they sinned against GOD.

  5. Tràpençe ndi Mtambo musawapusitse achinyamata. Inuyo ndikukhulupiĺira kuti ndinu okwatira mwinànso muli ñdi ana. Kodi inuyo makolo anu onse ndi ma gay? Azibambo inu ĺakula ndi dyerà ñdi kususuka . Zaugalu zimeneźi muziwauza ana añu mnyumba mwanu SHUT UP!!

  6. I see double standards here. Late Bingu on a podium once said and I quote “Try and go in the street, I will smoke you out (Ndikunyenyaninyenyani). Was he note inciting violence? Where was MLS then? At least you could have said that after his tenure of office you were going to take him to court. Guys, learned as you are but you cannot defeat God. Ana osamvera Jah mighty God Aphedwe ndithu including you who are taking Msonda to court. Msonda we are behind you 100% +.

  7. There are reports of an international effort to dissuade tourists coming to Malawi and from investors promoting business in the country because of this hatred for homosexuals. This and the lack of support of donors will be the ruin of Malawi, though it is probably too late to see the country develop ever.

  9. Anthuwo ndiwosaganiza, nchifukwa chake mvula ikuvuta kuno, isabweredi mumwalire mukazione face to face ndi jehovah wanu. Msonda sanalakwe and go ahead father, tili mmbuyomo, even bible or Quran illustrates those acts.

  10. Ufiti basi.How can you encourage homosexual in Malawi when you know for sure it is not allowed in the lands constitution?.Msonda is completely right. Never to allow this stupidity in this country. Mulikumva kodi agaru inu?Ngati mwadya za eni mukabweza.

  11. He said to his disciples,”THINGS THAT CAUSE SIN WILL INEVITABLY OCCUR, BUT WOE TO THE PERSON THROUGH WHOM THEY OCCUR.
    IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR HIM IF A MILLSTON WERE PUT AROUND HIS NECK AND HE BE THROWN INTO THE SEA THAN FOR HIM TO CAUSE ONE OF THESE LITTLE ONES TO SIN”
    America followed by Malawi and those like minded. Take care. Many kingdoms who fought against God have disappeared into the SEA including mighty ROME.

  12. would msonda be accused of inciting hate if he just quoted it straight from the book of Leviticus 18 where it says those who have sex with fellow men should be put to death? should Christian churches be charged with inciting hate? I propose that all real Christians, especially preachers, in protest against the arrest of msonda, go to either your church, radio or newspaper and read out that versee from the bible and refer to the homosexuality debate and let’s see how many people trapence and his homo pals wiLL arrest. And to the law society and all people who lie that the practice of anal sex between men is protected in our constitution, shame on you. The constitution prohibits descrimination based on sex, meaning male or female. For clarity refer to the debates the constitutional conference in 1992-93 and tell me if anyone talked about promoting buggery….don’t mislead people. If we want change, let there be a referendum on it like they have done in America and Europe and other countries.

  13. If a single person will stand for the truth nothing but only the truth God will rescue him….. Msonda you have full support.

  15. Am saddened to see Malawi slipping into the pangs of hell by succumbing to the pressure from USA to legalise homosexuality which is indeed Satanic, devilish, doggish, inhuman and shameful both before God’s eyes and humans. Things such as these ought not to have a place in our country let alone being legalized…….It is such a shame that we have a government that is so willing and ready to have homosexuality practised anyhow in Malawi in the name of human rights…….To people practising this demonic and stinking act, SHAME UNTO YOU…….You are so evil and you deserve to be killed indeed…..Bwana Msonda am with you 100% on this……no going back……….

  18. I have a question going to those for gay rights. Of what benefit will these homosexuality rights bring to Malawi as a country? At least we had our morals well guarded with the anti-homosexuality laws in place.

  19. Homesexuality is sinnful no matter what i can allow the gvt to arrest me and die in porison bz of anti homosexuality issue.its satanic stupid

  22. Msonda, umangwa; samala. If you think just because your kill chants are linked to gays and you will be justified then you are wrong. If you think you will be a political hero, you better think again. It will be purely criminal and you will rot in jail for your unnecessary stubbornness.

  24. Tiuuzeni court lake mwamuitanira Msondayo!Ine i will go with him even if it means kukakhala panja i will do that.Its time us Christians and Moslems we come together in our legalia and escort Msonda to court.Palibe kukhala phee.Trapence ndi Mtambo muwauze omwe akutumaniwo kuti ife tili ngati Daniel Sitipembedza milungu yanuyo.I implore Lucious Banda,Blacks lead us to court mukuyimba tikaone mmene atakammangire Msondayo.Ndichifukwa Kamuzu amakana TV.You see now.No rain,leprosy,cholera,typhod,army worms,cashgate!We will be there.

  25. Mumangeni Msonda yo, Koma mudziwe kuti Chiyambi cha chipolowe chija ndi chimenechi believe you me. There will be a serious civil war in malawi try to arrest Msonda. Ngati simukufuna Moyo tikuonerani. Ndalama zanuzo mukadyera kumanda , just wait!!!

  26. Anyone supporting these demonic gays acts is a devils messenger. The government itself is demonic and a puppet of the West in dire search of dirty money and demonic popularity. As Malawians we say No to gays and if you are saying YES, know that you are not one of us but a pure devil’s messenger. We cant turn a sin into our law just because the West feel so. We can ONLY accept gays if they come forward to repent and if they want to remain the same. Their is nothing about human rights for gays in our culture or religion because this is a Satanic right. To hell with gays and to hell with all of you supporting it. Free Malawi from this evil

  28. Well done Msonda Law Society z a toothless org licking Mathanyula”s ass just as de dog clld Trapence n Mtambo do. They wl not dare arrest u, nonsense!

  29. Bob Chiswe, it is you who has a psychological problem. Koma munthu wanzeru angatsutsane ndi Namalenga eti? Shipiti zanu ndi Pitala yemweyo. Animals know to mate with animals of the opposite sex. Koma zomvetsa chisoni munthu nkumaganiza zopusa chotere kuposa nyama eti? Msonda is right as that is what God ordered should be done to people who perform such devilish acts. God will fight for you Msonda. Akakhala Pitala watsala pang’ono kufa ndi cardiac arrest

    1. You miss the point, kwao they already talked about what we are now making noise about. The voted for recognition of Gays, we are still talking about recognition, marriage is far far away.

  32. thew world is very diversified now adays, some people or all people have sex with themselves, or patners, if people are allowed to have sex with their fingers, cant their be allowed to have sex with other peoples fingers, or mouth or ass, it is not a matter of national interest or economic interest or secutity interest, the government should give a guidance of what it great sex, evenbody who has a tongue can taste and know what they like, same as sexually as soon as it is with an adult capable of consenting who isn’t misusing trust to get it AND AS LONG AS IT IS IN PRIVATE WITH A NON RELATIVE or anybody who is deriberately wanting to infect the partner with a known disease or as soon long it is not sex qwith an animals or the dead.. then its game on, the STUPID STATE SHOULD PUT LAWS OR PUT THINGS IN THE CONSITUTION WHICH IT CANT POLICE, ALL LAWS SHOULD BE POLICEABLE BY MALAWI POLICE, im sorry but I think what happens in my bedroom will not be easy for police to know…im astraight but I think gay people has the higher risk of contacting HIV from infected partners but straight people who have sex with infected have a hightl significant risk too that the difference with gay infection isn’t worth much,

  34. Iwe msonda don’t take this matter lightly. Just apologize and move on. Anyokumangani Za zii. DPP already wants you out of the picture. You’re just giving them fodder for the fire.

  35. The devil primary tactics is to deceive humankind.He did it in Eden. He is continueing doing that. He seeks to deceive individuals,entire nations and the world. He twists and distorts what is true and is power in his lies. The power of satan is in the lie. Just look at the powers behind the guy issues. Msonda need to pray hard and believe in JESUS CHRIST.This is not a simple war.

  37. Who is intimidating who? Msonda should not be intimidated. Let Mtambo and Trapence prove that they have sufficient interest in this case

  46. The man is a real hypocrite. While gays are nasty piece of work with their behavior, one sin that needs punishment is stealing public funds which is leading to death in public hospitals due to lack of medication yet the custodians of those funds of which PP was one them deny responsibility, yet they want gays killed and your leader sir is in hiding crying illtreatment when she does not stay in Malawi. Your statements were irresponsible and you should be tried and you are an elder of the church and you should set an example but as we all know church elders are the first to cast a stone. What about all our sins we do in hiding? Does that not matter? If this nation was cursed it happened long time ago not because of gays but because of the immoral thieving leaders we have had in the past. It is shameful the way malawi has been governed the last fifty one odd years also.

  48. Mr. Msonda, point of correction, homosexuality is not ‘doggish’ because not even dogs do it! So, you may call it satanic, sinful but not doggish. No animal in the world does have sex male with male or female with female!
    Propagating rights for homosexuality is not human rights, it’s inhuman and not even animal rights… it’s probably unnatural rights which doesn’t exist.
    Gift Trapence and Timothy Mtambo are campaigning for what is detestable even in the eyes of God: Leviticus 20 v 13.

  49. This msonda is not wrong… He is right but not to kill but to punishing them….. Sizabwino zimenezi aaaa amuna okhaokha kut chan?? Aaa nt fair at all or atsikana okhaokha dziko likangovomela izi?? Eee we dnt knw kut titan..

  51. You would think there are much bigger issues to address in Malawi!

    I hope Msonda goes to jail, so he can learn about intolerance the hard way …… getting it up his ass from inmates.

  52. Don’t blame Ken Msonda but those rascals who are promoting this alien culture here in Africa and Malawi to be precise.

    The Holy Bible on Leviticus 20 v 13 clearly says and I quote “If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them”

    The Qur’an (7:80-84 says “… For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people of transgressing beyond bounds… And we rained down on them a shower of brimstone”

    From the above verses from two different Holy Books, it means it’s not Mr Msonda who is inciting the public to kill the gays but its the Holy Bible and The Quran. If anything why don’t you blame these two holy books?

    I personally totally agree with what Mr Msonda said as he is just echoing what the Bible and Quran are already telling us.

    YES, THE GAYS SHOULD BE KILLED IN LINE WITH WHAT THE BIBLE AND QUR’AN ARE TELLING US!!!!! KILL THE GAYS! KILL THE GAYS!!!! KILL THE GAYS!!!! KILL THE GAYS!!!

    IF PETER MUTHARIKA IS A GAY, WE WILL RISE UP AGAINST HIM AND WE WILL KILL HIM AS WELL!!!!

  53. Msonda wz jst saying hz opinion ngati mene enanu mukupelekera maganizo anu kuti mw shld legalise gay…musiyeni siwolakwa

  54. Zoona nsonda. Koditu anthu inu mukuchita promote this stupid practice here in Malawi tsiku lake ndi limodzi…. We are watching you

  55. Malawi is behind Msonda. We don’t e en need courts to know that gayism is and act of the devil himself. For those of you who support gays rights, no wonder, you are pure devil’s messengers and u have no place in Malawi just like your demonic beasts you are trying to protect. Viva Mugabe, woe to APM and his satanic government. May the Good Lord have mercy on Malawi

  57. Why do Peter Mutharika tolerate this wickedness during his reign? Msonda did not incite people to kill gays but rather ask police to arrest them. The law against gays in Malawi impose 14 years penalty and is in this regard Msonda is calling upon the Government to amend this to death penalty.Proverbs 29:2 and
    Leviticus 20:13

  58. Msonda is extremely irate by this homosexuality debate. Is he trying to hide something?

    What’s surprising is that he was not this vocal and open in his anger when JB was in power.

    To think this is the calibre thought leaders that JB had as advisors. No wonder she was advised to her doom. Smh.

  62. Why do Peter Mutharika allowing this wickedness taking place during his reign? The bible says “When the wicked rule people mourn”. Proverbs 29:2 God is punishing Malawi because of wickedness. Actually God said Homosexuals should be killed. Leviticus 20:13 By saying so Msonda was not inciting people to kill but asking government to mend the punishment against gays from 14 years imprisonment to death penalty. This is evident in his utterouses whereby he asked the police to arrest gays. By taking Msonda to court you are inciting God’s wrath. Watch out Malawi.

  64. Kodi inu makolo anu akanamachita zopusa zamathanyulazi mukadabadwa? Komadi dziko latha ili ndithu. Ambuye Yesu bwerani msanga mudzatitenge tidzipita kwathu kumwamba

  65. A Msonda, this will be your downfall and financial mess. Mukamfunse Chikakwiya.
    Do you really understand the law?

  67. umafuna kuwoneka ochenjera pa gulu pano wapusa. do you know how much lawyers charge these days? masteni kulibe ndiye akuthandiza money ndi ndani?

    akulu akale anati mlomo umakulondola. mpakana “kill them” zoona? how many billions of kwachas have politicians stolen from malawians, gays inclusive, over the years kuti lelo wina apange sanction mass murder?

    i don’t like gays, never will. their lifestyle disgusts me, but i like watching lesbian porn. as long as they pay their taxes and do their ‘back door’ activities in private, i don’t give a fuck. but one thing i will never do in my life is to kill another human being unless it’s in self-defence.

  68. “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman.
    It is an abomination.”
    (Leviticus 18:22)

    “If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman,
    both of them have committed an abomination.
    They shall surely be put to death.
    Their blood shall be upon them.”
    (Leviticus 20:13)

    Aziphedwa basi No Mercy……Mumange inenso

  69. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by God. Why? While Trapence and Mtambo are doing it for their jobs at the expense of integrity Msonda is doing for national decency. Koma amene tifike 2030 tidzawona zosaona.

  70. Msonda has proved is a psychological case for his mad utterances and should be taken to the mental hospital for a diagnosis. This is made worse by the fact that the man is illiterate and a mere political opportunist. He should be arrested immediately for inciting murder

  71. This argument that the constitution of Malawi prohibits discrimination based on sexuality is a stretching of the law. There’s nowhere where the constitution talks of sexuality. It prohibits discrimination ” based of the sex of a person “, ie discrimation because you are a male or a female, not sexuality ie whether a man sleep with a fellow man of woman with a fellow woman. That is a deliberate and deceitful extension of the law. Go back to the minutes off the constitutional conference after the referendum, refer to the dis cussions of the delegates and see if any person suggested or advanced any off these disgusting ideas. Don’t mislead

  72. This our country is full of crap. There is no rule of law if one can wake up and a declare sections of the penal code are suspended and threaten those of us who want the penal code enforced as is. Behaving like inja, dogs, crap eating fools.

  73. Osaope Msonda! Let the try awona. Trapence your days are numbered bcoz God is watching you ndi Asatana anzakowo

  74. Congrats Msonda. Go to court and that z the time Malawians of sane mind and good will shall take to the street and speak against this evil. Frear not, for the truth will set u free. Any laws that seem t accept homo, are misplaced in Malawi and shall go. Time will tell!

  75. I support you my friend. Even animals are better than the so called gays. Let someone tell me that they ever saw a male dog, bull, cock, lion, elephant or any male animal mounting another male. Stupidity at its best.

  76. Banja limakhala la ndevu amuna ndi akazi omwe? Olo mulungu atafuna ndikumuyika modzi pregnant sakhoza kulira kumati walodzedwa? choncho mvula ingagwe?? Yehoha timenyereni nkhondo.

  77. What does MLS and CEDEP say about the gay person who stated: “Give us our rights or kill us?” This is likely what prompted Msonda’s thoughts because Msonda countered that “it is better to kill gays than give them their rights…” I would say that the gay person is the one who incited (invited) violence in the first place in this case.

  78. SODOM AND GOMORAH !!

    SODOM AND GOMORAH !!

    AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS
    OF NOAH

    REPENT MY FRIENDS !!
    BETTER DIE POOR THAN DOING
    SINFUL ACTS FOR THE SAKE OF MONEY
    AND END UP IN HELL:

    EVEN DOGS ARE LAUGHING AT
    HUMAN BEINGS

  79. O………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………O
    Msonda . . .
    Don’t even waste your breathe answering these devil-worshiping idiotic idiots and foolish fools.
    They think they are lawyers because they did some law at Chanco; not knowing that a lizard does not become a crocodile just by associating or dining and wining with the crocodile.
    These people know nothing about law. They are simply some misguided dunderheads who found their way to whatever they are doing now, through kukakamiza zinthu.
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
    They will not take you to court – a thief doesn’t tell you he is coming to rob you. But even if they dare do, they cant win the case. Either way, they are losers just as their useless gay-pig friends. And they just want to intimidate you and others; in their advancement of their tasteless satanic gay agenda.
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    But don’t be afraid, you are not alone. The battle you are fighting is more spiritual than physical. The God you are fighting for, is more powerful than the Devil, whose agenda; they are fighting for.
    Even if the battle goes more physical, don’t be afraid. They are the few and we are the many. There is strength in numbers.
    O……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………O

  81. GIFT TRAPENCE ZIMENE UKUPANGA USAYESE ZIKUTISANGALATSA MSONDA WALAKWA CHANI USATANIC WAKOWO UDZIKAPANGIRA KWA AZUNGU AKOWO AMENE AKUKUPATSA NDALAM ZOMWE UKUTUMBWIRA UNGATENGE MBOLO YAKOYO NKUMAGONANA NDI BAMBO AKO ZOONA OKAY TIWONA NGATI MUTAPITILIZE ZIMENEZI DZIPANGANI

  82. SODOM AND GOMORAH !!
    SODOM AND GOMORA H..

    HE HE HEE !!
    GET OUT OF IT

    RATHER DIE POOR THAN
    DOING NASTY ACTS AND END UP IN HELL

    GOD FORBID !!

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