First Lady refuses to refund NAC money: CSOs can go ahead with demo

December 6, 2014 Green Muheya -Nyasa Times 117 Comments

First Lady Gertrude Mutharika  will not return the money her organisation Beautify Malawi (Beam) Trust took from National Aids Commission (NAC) as demanded by civil society organisations (CSOs) in the country, challenging they can go ahead to hold national demonstrations.

Madam Mutharika: Won't refund money
Madam Mutharika: Won’t refund money

The President’s spouse personally wrote a letter to NAC alongside, National Intelligence Bureau (NIB) and Mulhako wa Alomwe asking for funds that had nothing to do with Aids activities.

Mutharika asked for K5 million for her Beam Trust, NIB asked for K43 million while Mulhako wa Alomwe was given K9 million.

The development angered CSOs who gave the First Lady a seven-day ultmultum to return the money or face mass protests.

But the First Lady has challenged the CSOs to go ahead with the demonstrations and she remains adamant that money will not be returned.

BEAM’s board member Mavuto Bamusi said the CSOs threats of demonstrations are empty and meaningless, claiming they are politically inspired.

“The demonstrations are just meaningless. Nethertheless, they can go on with the demonstration but as far as BEAM is concerned, no money will be returned to NAC,” said Bamusi.

Bamusi advised the CSOs to query NAC on how it paid the money to Mutharika’s Trust.

One of the CSO leaders, Martha Kwataine, said the First Lady knew exactly what she was doing when she asked for the funds.

Said Kwataine: “If she [Mutharika] thinks the lives of Malawians can be put on hold simply because she wants to promote her trust, then she should think again. We have given her seven days from today, inclusive of Sundays, and if she fails, she will have swallowed a bitter pill. If there is money that should never be tampered with, it is NAC money because Malawi does not contribute a single tambala to NAC.”

Centre for Human Rights and Rehabilitation (CHRR) executive director Timothy Mtambo said the “First Lady should know that NAC has its window where it calls for proposals from institutions and organisations in the HIV and Aids response and not to solicit funds for unrelated activities in the manner that was applied in this case.”

Bamusi said the CSOs leaders are “jealousy” with Mutharika’s Trust.

Minister of Information, Kondwani Nankhumwa, has stressed that government cannot refund money which was taken by independent bodies such as Mulhakho Wa Alhomwe and Beautify Malawi Trust (Beam).

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117 replies on “First Lady refuses to refund NAC money: CSOs can go ahead with demo”

  2. This all stems from the conflict of interest in a First Lady setting up an organization that duplicates the work of Civil Society Organisations (CSOs). A CSO is meant to be independent of government but how can the First Lady be independent of the husband’s government? We should ask the First Lady to focus on being a wonderful wife to her new husband and close down her trust.

  3. Mai Muntharika are you sure you want to put the lives Malawians at stake because of greed? You could have done better if you explained to us how beautifying Malawi will use the money in relation with HIV/AIDS,( of which doubt) greed!!! Shame on you!

  4. How can this ugly woman spit venom on angry Malawians with her sasamba friend Bamusi like that?You are in for it Getrude.You will never sleep a wink until that money meant for buying Arvs is returned.Who cares for the masache za Beam ndi archaic tribal grouping of the Mlakho wa Mlomwe?Mayi inu mwaputa Amalawi and you doesn’t even qualify to be the first lady.Tamangophikani Ku makhitchini aku statehouse.Musatitopetsepo apa ndi u first lady opanda nawo mutu uwo.uzibweza ndalama zimenezi otherwise uwadziwa amalawi.Masitalaka ali mbwe mbwe akubwera mnjiramu.We r very furious with this ugly woman.

  5. What a response from the First Lady? Are you sure the response is from her office and she had all the audacity to tell Bamusi to come up with that kind of a stupid response?. I really doubt and if she did , then we are in trouble. Malawi will never change or else no first lady or gentleman should be allowed to form any trust in this country because the end results have been very frustrating to Malawians.
    Now since she has accepted demonstrations, just tell us the date and venues to meet so that she knows that we hold the power more than her husband.

  10. Nanuso mai musatichititse manyazi ife anthu aku BLK mwava .Kodi ma demo…. Aku Lilongwe tikakumane pati coz nde tikuona kuchedwa

  11. ANTHU ENA AKAKHALA PAMWAMBA THINK THAT THEY ARE WISER THAN EVERYONE ELSE. INU A BEAM TIME WILL COME WHEN YOU WILL SHIT YOURSELVES. THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THOSE POSITIONS BUT NOW THEY ARE CRYING. TIKUKUONANI AND WE WILL NOT SYMPATHISE WITH YOU WHEN THE CLIMATE CHANGES FOR YOU. ZITSIRU ZA ANTHU.

  12. if poti timangoti chete pazirizonse ndiye anthu ngati amenewa amatilowelela chonchi, koma what th should know is thes is not malawi the used to know.
    Anthu anasintha pano ndimalawi wa sopano, bwezani ndalama za (NAC) other wize muyaluka nazo….unu mai mubweze kabungwe ka kwao kwa ababakonso kabweze awanso anthu akuti amzeluwanso abweze…
    Mwinako tingagonese mizimu ya awo akufuna kwabwino.
    Ziwani aids iripo ndipo iribe ntera koma tinganjese mkandalamaka..
    Pomariza mungandiikileko nyimbo ija anaimba [nesnes wanditaisa nthawi]
    ………..Ndatha ine wanu chiojeka kumuzi ku che chimwala zikomo….

  13. I for ine Beamobjectives are good…but the alignment if it to first ladybig is the problem. Yes, its a trust but…..

    Ndiye mpaka uchitira mwano anthu a Geti…zoona!
    Surely JB was better in many ways except cashgate….dhe could see where the problem was and deal with it koma awa duuuu! kaya aganiza chiani anawelenga Bible or what!
    utsogolero wodabwitsa utdigolrrr ndi nkhongo osati maso kenaka nkumayenda kupita kutsogolo !

  15. A Bamusi palibe chanzeru mukunena,mzimayiyu musamulangize zoyipa.we know once things have gone sour you will be the one running away from her like ‘ntchentche’ on feaces.

  16. 91, i salute you for raising what you may have as a joke or simple: why do people fail to manage themselves when in the face of money? The Bible warns about money being the source of all evils. People have sang about transformation people go when the see or touch money: aphiri akalandira ndalama,mutu wawo umagwidwa shoko. Alalandira. ndalama,dollar cashyo. We sell our souls for money!

  18. Mwano umenewo a Bamusi inu muzaona polekera don’t Malawians for granted by challenging like that Gertrude and Bamusi you will just provoke the wrath of Malawians things are not inorder and that you should be aware

  19. Martha and your team ndinu mbava zokhazokha mwaona kuti chithumbacho chaphwera kwambiri simudyapo zambiri and your out ther making noise as if yuor speaking for malawians mukudyetsera mimba zanu be honesty osamalemerera mudzina la anthu odwala edzi chonde

  20. So Malawians are jealousy of Beam Trust? For your information Mrs Gertrude Hendrina Maseko Mafubza Mutharika, Beam Trust is the most uninspiring , unimpressive, unimaginative, body ever formed by any First Lady of this country . You look like a very shallow person and it appears you are indeed shallow . The aims and objectives of your Trust are shallow . Your handling of the Nacgate issue is also extremely shallow .

  22. The problem is with the whole system of managing HIV/AIDS in Malawi. The people entrusted with the responsibility to manage this important program are incompetent. This is the consequences of appointing people to positions for political appeasement instead of qualifications or merit. Malawi needs to wake up! There is an entire government department with a principle secretary responsible for HIV/AIDS in Malawi government surprisingly, we are still facing such huge problems of managing this program. Not long ago, NAC refunded money to the donors for misappropriating funds and today we hear NAC gave out money to non related HIV groups. What is the Principal secretary and the entire department to look into affairs of HIV/AIDS doing? Sleeping? How can the entire HIV/AIDS management, regulatory system allow that to happen? Are there no guideline, policies to disburse funds for HIV/AIDS in Malawi? There is a need to change this NAC management system and the government system responsible for HIV/AIDS if NAC is to be entrusted by donors.

    During the first term of Bingu, HIV/AIDS was well managed, and the department won an award for performing well in all sectors until incompetent people were brought in, who could not even come up with better policies and manage the entire program. Please put competent people in departments to address such problems. Good luck Malawi!

  23. Does Malawi have politicians who think for the benefit of the nation or self enrichment. This BEAM Trust act is shameful. Nayenso Bamusi anangosinthiratu. Zolankhula zake zosamveka. Why do people fail to manage themselves in the face of money?

    Is this the country we wanted on 20th May 2014? Cry Beloved Country.

    The Fearless Samurai (Jwampiriu)

  24. The giver had the right to reject the request. Why should the reciever refund? Blame the giver; thus why she says she is not going to refund because she did not steal. Why didn’t you demonstrate when JB recieved the buses bought through cashgate money? Don’t fool us again with your stupid plans to demonstrate for some people will matumbo panja! Tiwaphulitsa ndi mfuti akangoyetsera kuyandikira shop yang kufuna kuyithyola.

  25. Demonstrate peacefully or if you try to break my shop, declare yourself dead. My security is alert and their AK 47s are on standby ready to shoot mbava. A Police osayandikira, angayambe kunamizira Boma.

  26. Mr Mavuto Bamusi, lero limenelo? The demos are meaningless? Ok, you will tell the nation what is meaningful. Munali ndani che bamusi popanda ma cso inuyo?

  27. zowona mwatchito zonse nkusankha ntchito ya khwangwala yotolatola mikute mbini ?munthu wankulukulu tabwerani kuno ku kk mudzaoletu zinyalala izi. you r abusing office kuti mwina munenepe nsanga.

  28. Gertrude grew up in adjunct poverty. This is probably the first time she has handled MK5million that she never worked for, hence her refusal to give it back. Never in her wildest dreams did she think she would ever live comfortably. She has gotten soooo comfortable , has gotten rich overnight that she has lost her moral campus…….. What a shame. Gertrude it is your moral obligation to return the money.

  29. Kkkk kubaku kwavuta. Chaka sichinathe koma zinthu zayamba kale kulakwika. Plz govt do something.

  30. aliyense wayesa podyera pake pa amalawi eti? Tapelekani ndalamazo sizanu, ngati umphawi gwanu. Ife zopepera ayiiii! Mwabweranso liti muzitivuta. Manyazi bwa!

  35. Mr Bamusi ntchito yanu ndikulangiza osati uneneri muchitawo otherwise inuo muluza integrity yanu. Kapena nanu mwasanduka handclupper. Eeee koma zoopsya
    A Malawi tisaimve ndalama zibwezedwe and that includes nib and mlakho

  36. A lost opportunity here. Getrude and her Bamusi should know that by letting the demonstrations to go ahead, things can turn to worse sometimes. The demonstrations can turn into something worse considering the anger that is evident in people now and you will regret seeing this turning into uncontrollable national wide chaos just by being arrogant. Burkina Faso is a good example for you

  39. It is disgusting but true to form of quite a lot of Malawians . When I was last in Kasungu the local AIDS committee was awarded K100,000, The very next day the secretary, treasure and chairman split the money 3 ways and began drinking it . I know this and swear to god it is true , the bottle of green given to me was part of the loot. I refused any more but the ironic thing was all were HIV suffers supposedly acting on behalf of the unfortunate victims of this disease . However I Have yesterday rang my British MP and told him to check what is going on in Malawi because their funds were under discussion . No way can funds for AIDS be now given when those greedy bastards are just plundering them at will . JOHN TELFORD

  41. She is a smart woman. She knows if people start demonstrations and give husband a tough time, he can die from undue pressure like the brother and she gets to inherit his benefits and money and live comfortably for ever.

  45. i told malawians she was not going to return the money.
    she is a thieve too and no honest women.
    that women she is so stupid indeed.
    thats malawian people money from aid not that women money.
    she sould give the money back.
    i feel sorry for you because you are already tired of those people.
    go to street and ask for JB help and if she agrees to help of course.
    you people see by attacking JB with lies they stay without attention to do things.
    im from europe im im not liking what that women is doing.
    she should give the money back nothing else.
    people need to get they arv and when medication finish too much people will die to fast.
    that women should respect all human lifes,stupid chicken.
    its not fair.this is how can i say it gives so rage.
    RETURN THE MONEY THE FAST AS POSSIBLE ,ITS NOT YOUR MONEY.STUPID FOUNDATION ONLY CREATED TO STEAL.

  46. MABVUTO BAMUSI, LOVE OF MONEY IS BEGINING OF EVIL.WHEN DIRTY WATER REACHES YO NECK,MALAWIANS WILL NOT BE SUPRISED

  50. GETRUDE MUST LEARN TO GET ADVICE.IT IS LIKELY THE HUSBAND FOOLED HER NOT TO OBLIGE.INFACT BOTH WIFE AND HUSBAND MUST PAY

  52. Of course everybody knows that CSOs are politically motivated. Every Malawian knows that CSOs are Team#joyisi and Tumbukas, burning inside with jealous. Their ultimatum is ending next Tuesday. Let’s wait and see who is going to swallow a bitter pill. They think this is Bingu’s time when they managed to fool Malawians (people at the Center and in the South) that they were pursuing national interest yet deep down they knew the demonstrations were not for that. That’s why people like John Kapito regretted a lot after knowing the truth.

    We are waiting for you in the streets on Wednesday. See you there.

    1. Iwe ndimbuzi eti, are Martha Kwataine of MHEN and Safari Mbewe of Manet Plus a tumbukas? or are they affiliated to any political party. Upite ku xool, mathanyula wachabechabe iwe eti.

  53. PITALA PITALA !! WHERE IS THE MONEY YOU WORKED FOR AND BROUGHT BACK FROM JOWENI (THEBA) AMERICA ??? ZATHA KALE NTHAWI YOMWEYI ??? ZOWONADI NDALAMA NSATANA MWEEE !!!

  54. Am waiting for the mass protest that is about to come. Malawians will get tired of these nosenses going on and resort into bloody demos

  56. KOMA AMAYI AWA AKUVUTA NGATI ZENI ZENI ZOONA ANTHU AKUVUTIKA MMIDZI, I WE WAGUNDIKA KUTENGA NDARAMA ZA ANTHU ODWALA ULIBE MANYAZI? KUYIPA NKHOPE NDI NTIMA WOMWE KOMA GOD WIL PUNISH U

  58. Wait a minute Nankhumwa;Why should government refund money that was collected from NAC by independent bodies such as Beam and Mlakho?Why cant the said bodies refund themselves?Was the govt.a beneficiary?Bwinotu bwino.I thought you would say gov.t would refund what NIB stole from NAC.

  59. You are stubborn Madam , may be because you are HIV positive that’s why you are untitled to use NAC funds . You are dealing with over 15 million people with different views and it is good to challenge them . One stupid kitchen wife can’t challenge the nation.

  60. Why all this arrogance? If this money had been refunded soon after the concerns were raised this matter would have been forgoten by now. I listened to Bamusi’s arguments and felt sorry for him as to how his intergrity will be like after the temporary life at State House. He argued about NAC buying a table at the function. Just to remind him that a table was costing K300000 and if NAC paid K3 million then NAC paid for 10 tables. The question still remains should NAC really be in the business of paying for DPP functionaries to patronise such events? And do not be naive to deceive Malawians that Ministers pa
    id from their pockets when money came from Ministries budgets and I know the silly argument shall one again be no Beam invited them in their own right and we have no business checking the origins of the money. Continue being arrogant but God is watching

  61. Apm get your green card back and move to USA where you belong you fool your are an idiot and not worthy to be president of malawi

    You must resign else you will die of cardiac Callista

  62. Koma inu a first lady a Malawi mutitenga opusa eti
    Inutu mudzafa imfa yowawa mukadzakumana ndi ine ndidzakuthilani petrol mkukuyatsani mudzafera pompo ndinu munthu WA kuba, ndiye wakuba aliyese mob justice, tikuyatsa okuba mbaula kapena makatani what more ndi anthu ngati inu oba ndalama za edzi
    Foolish people

  63. zovuta izi. akuti sabweza nde zitani pamenepa! de first lady,mlakho +….. analemba kalata. was NAC forced to release de money or what? CSOs, we apreciate de good job you do to malawians but have checked on both sides B4 resorting to demoz kapena nanu mungofuna ma donors akunyemereni! DONORgate Kkkkkkkk. Lucius anayimba kuti takumana mbava zokhazokha. mukaguba nokha ife tikakhala tikuzisaka.

  64. Bamusi wagwidwa ndi chiwanda Cha spiritual wife mpake akuyankhula ngati oduka mutu

    I personally don’t understand why Bamusi of all people backing the first lady Getrude mzukwa muntharika for withdrawing funds from nac meant for the devilish beam trust.
    Ayi ndithu chitani manyazi please return the money

  67. Here we go, this is the DPP I know. Even kagalu kachikazi ngathi kameneka being so rude after stealing money belonging to HIV infected people. These are heartless animals. Martha and the whole CSOs we are behind you and we will march even if it means for a whole month.

  68. Bamusi, swimming in luxuries, can’t see the suffering Malawians, would like to see the sick continue to die. He is pleasing his masters including Getrude. Only time will tell.
    Getrude, selfish and insensitive of the AIDS sick Malawians. This is exactly how Calista destroyed late Bingu. And Nankhumwa, how can he use government tax payer’s money to refund money not used for government activity. Taking advantage of the non-functional judicial system, he wishes the judicial black-out continued – otherwise this is misuse of his office and corruption at its best. Oh God help Malawi.

  72. Zovetsa chisoni kwambiri. Remember it takes a man to say am sory i will not d0 again.apology isnot as simple as it is, especialy 4 those in power.remaimber mau ake a pa campain ku bk. Anati vote apm and i will b a first lady.what she meant was very personal not public but pple could not see this. Now blance 4 more abuse ye poor malawians, powerless and braveless. So sad.

  73. I agree.she must not refund the money.she did steal. Nac gave her on its own volition. She only begged and she was given. If nac did not have money to spare,it could have turned down her request as other organisations did refuse her the money.

  74. Koma anthu awa atithandiza koma???? Malawi akulowela kuti kodi??? Dziko kuli mmanja mwa ndani kodi??? Nanga ife a Malawi eni ake tili serious ndi dziko lathu koma????

  75. Over night, amai, mwafika kale mulingo umenewu? Ee! koma ndiye zayamba kundiopsya. Iwenso Bamusi waiwala kuti tsiku lina unakhala ngati nyerere yokakamila mphika woti ukupita pamoto. Tsopano mwati Nankhumwa anati boma libweza ndalama zoonongedwa ndi mulhakho wa alhomwe? Zikugwirizana pati alhomwe ndi boma? I need to be schooled here.

  77. SO WE CAN TAKE WHAT, FIRST LADY SAYS SHE WILL NOT RETURN THE MONEY AND AT THE SAME TIME MINISTER SAYS GVT WILL REFUND THE MONEY.IS IT GVT TO REFUND OR THE BODIES TO PAY BACK THE MONEY.

    MALAWIANS WE ARE STILL SLEEPING ———– OUR GOD PLEASE SECURE MALAWI.

  78. It is so sad to learn that the first lady can stoop so low as to personally ask for support of her Trust from organizations that also rely on donor funds, surely one expects her to be smarter than that? This is reckless abuse of her position of power. One thing is clear, I for one don’t prefer her work of beautify Malawi if it means relocating the HIV/Malaria/Tuberclosis resourses to her fund. To hell with your trust, we don’t need it. It is your conduit to siphon money from the public coffers, pure theft and corruption. Yes don’t refund the money because you are too small minded and unethical to mind the greater good of Malawians, selfishness at its best.

  79. This is what some of us were saying,

    Now you can demonstrate, because she has refused to return the funds.

    But still, the question is, where are you going to demonstrate.

    You can not demonstrate in the streets of BT, Muthalika does not live on the streets of BT. Go and demonstrate at state house that is where Gertrude is.

  80. Ndalama ndi satanadi. A Collins Magalasi ndi Mabvuto Bamusi were not long ago strong civil society activists. Voice Mhone is also about to be silenced.

  81. I think the proper thing is to demand the suspension of NAC’s board and senior management. let an independent investigations be carried out to establish how the payments were handled. the outcome of the investigations will help in deciding who should be fired/ spared. if you ask me, refund of the money is a half-way solution. we need to deal with people who approved the payments. who knows? there maybe many payments of similar nature which have been made in the past. clean up the NAC!!!!

  85. Misinformed NGOs. It is not true that Malawi Government does not contribute any Tambala to NAC. Malawi Govt is under obligation to make a financial contribution to NAC.

  87. Amayi inu mwayambapo khalidwe wa sister in marriage Callista. Koma choti mudziwe boma la amuna anu simukulithandiza mavuto omwe likumane nawo kamba ka makani mukuchitawa. Callista naye ankalandira salary ya boma pa ntchito zachifundo koma anasiya kulandira after ma demo. Mukanangobwenza panopa chifukwa mubweza come rain or shine. Ma demo akuchititsani kubweza

  88. respect is giving, don’t be arrogant when you have done wrong, justince must walk as water in the stream

  89. Who is this Bamusi? The same one who use to sleep at city centre for a vigil? Is he in his normal senses or chibanzi chavuta?

  91. The first lady is corrupted with power,don’t forget Callista behaved in the same manner.Malawians are masters of their own fate. The evil that we did on voting day lives after us.The solution to this prolem is to allow history to repeat itself. The money meant for ARVs were stolen by DPP conduits the same way Lutepo did.Be part of the solution.

  93. Mbuzi ndi mbuzi basi.wonse ndi mbamva abweza bwanji ndalama.mchifukwa chake akukana ma DONER AID cholinga azitbela bwino.mulungu dalitrani malawi.

  95. munya muona..tipita ku nsewu konko ena akuvutika inu muli ku state house mukugona pa ma bed ogula ndi ndalama zathu..anthu akufa mulibe chisoni alomwe inu..chouluka chidzatera and your days are numbered.

  96. Kuba kweni kweni tamuonereni kupanda manyazi. Mwina munenepa Ku sanjika mwapitako abale. Koma muziona ndithu bachitani makani

  97. if you Getrude think you are clever then time has come for you and your husband face the law..ok tipita ku nsewu coz pali ena akukunamizani..chimene mungadziwe anzathu amene ali ndiEdzi,TB ndi Malaria akumwalira daily kusowa ndalama.and NAC ikafunsidwa imanena ilibe ndalama lero mwadya ndalama mukulankhula mwano.. Chowuluka chidzatera..lne Nyapapi.

  99. Mabvuto Bamusi, Bamusi, Bamusi, how many times have I called your name? do you want to turn this Country into a tam oil, what I have seen cheBamusi is that you don’t wish this old man well you want him to go faster than he came, mark my words cheBamusi its such arrogant that will also make you go faster than you came cheBamusi, don’t think Malawians are stupid.

  100. Amai awa abale,kuchepa thupi ndi nzeru yomwe?anali alamu anu aBingu,ali kuti pano?makaniwo muzikapanga ndi Pitala kuchipinda.mukapanga makani ndife uzafa imfa yowawa ngati bingu.

    1. Mang’onyolani,I think anakulemba ntchito yoseta azigogo akubawa.Tikawachotsa pa mpando uzidzaseta galu wanga.

  103. Nkhope ngati chona kupusa eti ubweze ndalamazo because kachilombo mwina nanuso mulinako kale mayi ndiye mufuna chithandizo

  104. Akudelera move vigil ku State Houe ndalama za ma ARV sizogulira masache abweze nzimayi ameyi kaya ndiufiti kaya kudalira ukazi wa Presdent a Malawi sitilora

    1. I always say we Malawians are super grade assholes.more than stupid.I hate being a Malawian.Cursed are our forefathers for their more stupid decision to make Malawi exist!They are more than assholes wherever they are!

  108. Inu Mrs Mutharika Beam trust ndiyanu ndi amuna ,ana anu koma ndalama mwatapazo ndiza ife amalawi.Ndi bwino kulakhula mwanzeru pa nkhaniyi kuti ife tikupatseni ulemu.Uyu munthu munamulemba ntchito Bamusi ayamba kulakwitsa zinthu.Every Malawian WA kwiya kwambiri ndi nkhani.

  110. Ntchito yiliko we will come back to 2012 saga .Peter Mkhito sapepesa.Sichinathe chaka yigwira a Malawi ndi mwano umenewu ?

  111. Ukamafa mumayamba kugontha ndi makutu.
    Arrogant leaders WORSE than Late Bingu (May His Soul Rest In Peace).

  112. e tu Getrude? Think twice. And why do you say “jealousy”,jealousy for what? Stealing money in daylight. Remember,you are not the first and last First Lady of this country. Just because you sister- Callista was left scot-free with millions she stole thru fake salary,then you think it will be the same with you, no,it wont.mwatichenjeletsa. Dzina la Muthalika ndilodzukitsa a Malawi.

  113. iwe mabvuto bamusi ndiwe galu wachabe chabe ndalamazo tikuzifuna nkhalamba yakoyo inabvomereza yokha kuti inatengadi ndalama ku NAC.so why giving contradicting statements. an idiot.

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