Govt targets Dedza MP Lunguzi for political battle – Muluzi
Minister of Lands and Housing Atupele Muluzi has said government officials will soon visit Dedza east to ask traditional leaders if indeed they do not need the subsidised malata and cement programme following MP Juliana Lunguzi’s request for its suspension.
Muluzi told the state controlled Malawi Broadcasting Corporation (MBC) that it was surprising that the Dedza East legislator is seeking the suspension of the programme which he said is benefitting the poorest of the poor in all constituencies and government wants to find out from the people in the area whether the views of their MP Lunguzi represents their wishes.
This was after Lunguzi urged the government in parliament to seriously consider suspending the programme in view of the economic turmoil the country is facing and relocate the K7 billion financial resources to the education sector, one of the worst hit due to severe budget cuts.
Lunguzi said: “The government can shelve this programme now. Malawi is at economic crossroads. Instead, let the government subsidise production so that people can build houses on their own. The beautiful houses we are seeing now were built by people themselves not the government.”
Lunguzi said during debate on the subject that was brought in the House by Mzimba Sosola MP Jacob Hara.
“I know this is a political issue but we should stop politicising development programmes. Poor students are failing to pay secondary school fees, they are failing to pay college fees and yet we are subsidising the malata and cement. We are joking. Your children are in private schools because you can afford but people in my constituency cannot afford,” she said.
The World Bank, other donors and economists are also urging the government to stop the subsidy programmes which they say is a drain on public coffers in these harsh economic times.
Forensic audit
Rumphi East MP Kamlepo Kalua asked for a thorough forensic audit report which he said should be presented in the House.
This was after it was revealed that parliament approved K14 billion for the malata and cement programme for last year and this year yet the government is struggling to build 80 houses in each constituency as promised y the government last year.
Muluzi promised that the audit reports would be made available.
He said there were some delays due to teething problems but assured the House that by next year, the government would construct over 15000 houses through the programme and that it translates to 160 houses per constituency.
Responding to Lunguzi, Muluzi said students cannot have very good education if they live in deplorable conditions.
He said the target of the programme is the poor people who aspire to live in decent houses but cannot afford due to grinding poverty.
The minister said the government was ready to withdraw the programme from Dedza east if the MP insists, saying she could not appreciate the programme because she came from a wealthy family.
The MP is daughter to Mac William Lunguzi the last inspector general of police in one party Malawi Congress Party led government.
Muluzi also said the programme has created 35000 jobs.
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I support Juliana Lunguzi because she is a Lunguzi, and I don’t support Atupele Muluzi because he is a Muluzi and he does not come from a wealthy family.
States Men always thinks about next Generation,( Julian)
Politicians always thinks about next Elections.(Atupele)
SAID DR L CHAKWERA
#114 you dont know William Mlunguzu, just shut up your dirty mouth,mano osatsukawo, mkamwa monunkhamo!ufufuze bwino bwino za bambo ake mtsikana ameneyo wanva?
Anthuwa ndi akuba. Aona kuti kuba kudzera cashgate system sizitheka that y they have introduced this idea to steal money for their own benefit and their parties. otger deal for these people is masaf. its main aim
is steal money
juliana has good facts on the ground but you are too fast slow down abit. Poverty and richness work hand in hand. If poverty is completely scrapped then definitely Jesus is coming today. Don’t forget that for you to be called educated there is someone who’s illiterate therefore people who are in authority cast their net to explore means of helping anyone whether rich or poor .There bursaries that can help people get assistance from the only thing that you have to do is to guide your constituents what to do or even yourself giving a hand in so doing you will win more votes for the forthcoming elections. Stop arguing uncontrollably, it won’t help you but you will start loosing your credibility. You are such a strong young lady with a strong mind but slow down a bit.
She is totally right abolish thise shit program now people don’t listen to thise idiot UDF fool
she is right,mzipatala zathu mulibe mankhwala ngakhale panado yemwe akusowa.patients are having a single meal per day nthawi zina phala kumene.use the resources to revamp the ailing health sector.anthu akamwalila azakhale m’nyumbazo ndani.
Guys let us face the truth – ppptics or no politics, Lunguzi absolutely right. The subsidies that we have, the Malaya subsidy inclusive make political and not economic sense. Of we need to develop, let us concentrate our resources in production. If you do not agree with her, you not patriotic to Malawi
Mwana wa Malamu Mac William Lunguzi who was killed by the MCP, and now she z the MP for the same blood party. Just wait and see, u wil be buried right next to ur father in front of Hus house.
Govt shud help a community not individuals. Juliana is right k7b good cash to help education or health sector.
Create enabling environment and malawians will build their own hse plus we will produce our own food with same little rains
I really believe atupele thinks about the poor in the village. It is indeed suprising that Juliana was bringing this idea when she knows that food is paramount. You cant learn if you are hungry. Let us think objectively and support issues with critical analytical mind
juliana has brains coz she is looking at priolity. while muluzi has politics of appeasement and mediocrity.
I don’t know whether there is a genetic predisposition or just sheer mediocre politics associated with the Muluzi name. These Muluzi cadre is so myopic . Malawi would be safer if the Muluzis vanished from the face of Malawi politics. Their political ideology, if they have any, is filthy and it stinks.
If we have the thinking like Muluzi and DPP govt, I forsee Malawi moving backwards 30 years. Yet we’re suppose to move forward the same years. Are we really serious? Malawi needs leaders/strategist that can think beyond Malata and cement subsidy. Put aside politics if Malawi is to develop, but these short term and substandard houses you are constructing is a joke. One is even surprise about the costs that are mentioned for such small houses. I said it before, and I agree with Kamlupe, audit need to be done, because anganyawa sangangokakamila pachabe. Palipo pomwe iwo akusola and akungobisalirako this project. I always cry for my Malawi, where we have leaders that don’t care about the priorities of the country as long as their pockets are full, then everything is normal. At first I thought this young Muluzi has some brains, but aaaaagh, buluzi weniweni. Apa ndiye waganiza ngati bambo wake ndithu. The fact is Juliana has a valid point, if only you can take with a sober mind and forget about your deals that you have already made with amwenye, then we can save many souls that are dying in our hospitals.
Muluzi took this so personally that you wonder what is really irking him. His statement that he would go to Dedza constituency was so stupid and childish that you wonder whether he is a young man with a retarded, old, and dictatorial mind. Juliana was right – the government can never have enough money to build houses for all poor Malawians. DPP and UDF have lost direction and sense of their responsibility – their role is to provide an enabling environment for Malawians to blossom economically rather than give hand outs. Our politicians don’t seem to ever learn – JB tried the same approach of giving handouts in forms of cows and houses for people and this led her and the nation nowhere!
I didn’t expect Muluzi to think so low. Surely he will be embarrassed and the people will tell him they don’t need it. Not everyone is planning to embark on a house project for sure. This is one of the poor thinking examples that we are still underdeveloped
Angakhale muntukwane bwanji Atupeleyo he still deserve to lead this nation, amene akukutumaniwo atuluka zilonda nkabudula
Each government has its pet project. This is Bad for Malawi. BUT LUNGUZI SHOULD HAVE KNOWN HOW POLITICAL IT IS TO ATTACK PET PROJECT. Nzeru si kusukulu kokha. Mwaiyamba nokha ukaziputa limba.
Illovo create a job for me and I manage to build good House for my parents home, DPP create a job for the Malawians then to build House will be very easy when we get paid.No hand out.( abolish that please)
The DPP lead government doesn’t stop to amaze me. They are always complaining that the opposition just opposes without coming up with solutions. When the opposition comes up with a solution they find ways and means of shutting them up.
Juliana’s showdown with Atupere is a very good example. Juliana says ‘Let’s suspend the malata and cement subsidy and channel the resources to areas that have been critically affected by the economic shutdown the country is experiencing.’ She mentions; Health, Education and Agriculture as the critical areas.
Atupere counters back by saying government will soon visit Juliana’s Dedza East Constituency to find out from the constituents themselves if they don’t need the malata cement subsidy. Really is this how the government is going to react whenever the opposition proposes a solution?
It appears the young Muluzi wants to embarass the young Juliana in her home. This is totally unprofessional and demonstrates backward partisan politics which will take the country nowhere.
Our hospitals are lacking drugs, educational standards have gone to the dogs, agriculture is grinding to a halt. Instead of seeing the wisdom in Juliana’s solutions, the learned Atupere stoops so low as to engage in the battle of political supremancy. Is he in his right senses or he is under the influence?
Whether he succeeds in his mission, what he needs to know is that on this one alone Juliana has spoken for all those that are suffering due the effects of the dwindling service deliveries in the mentioned areas.
I wonder whether these people on the government side ever read Nyasatimes.
My guess is that Juliana is trying to emphasize on how government makes its priorities! given the current situation, what should be the priority.. I guess this is the gist of Juliana’s argument!
On the other hand, it is the very same parliament that approved this activity and associated budget..rather paradoxical, right? This is Malawi and this is how we behave…… hahahahahha
Jullian lunguzi akunena zowona, kodi malata ndi cement tingalipire ku sukulu kapena tingamwe mkunchira nthupi. Ngati a muluzi akupatsani kathu munene ife kuno tikuvutika kwambiri tayambani mwamkodza zimenezi. Atupele utisamale sudzawinanso 2019 ndiwe mbulli, kkkkkkk…….
A mad and childish minister would do that. Get sense in what the young lady was saying.
Think beyond
Lunguzi we know u were born in a well to do familly therefore u dont know how painfull it is to live in a glass thached house during rainy season,ngati mfundo zatha just zip off ur stupid mouth
Atupele timakunyadilani koma pano ndawona kuti ulibe nzeru.Dziko lino lilibe ndalama, choncho liyenera kuchita zinthu zofunikila kwambiri.chimozimozi pa banja ngati uli ndi ndalama yochepa umagula zinthu zofunika kwambiri monga chakudya osati njinga/mowa
Nurse lunguzi is just playing politics as bad as dpp. Its all politics of subsidies. I want a party that removes all excessive subsidies in malata and cement, fisp, free health services, free primary education or heavily subsidised secondary and university education etc. They all must go and not just one as such in my opinion both Juliana and atupere are imbeciles
This woman talks too much. Most of the time garbage. Its like there is no one in parliament but herself. I wish she could pipe down abit
I know the reason why Juliana is still a spinster at her age. She is very argumentative. For sure even in bed, thus what Juliana does.Giving the man when to do it or not. There is too much jijilikeshoni in this woman.Akweniwa adachenjkera mwa utsiru.Amaganiza mofulumila ndi moonjeza zedi. Please Atupele just silence her. Atupele is now becoming silencer for DPP.
A MP akakutungila madzi kuchisime ndikuzakupatsa kwanu chimenecho ndi chithandizo; A MP ena akakumba chisime pafupi ndi kwanu chimenecho ndi chitukuko. Wamva kaya iwe Atupile iwe????
kkkkkk kachitsilu kameneko ka juliana kamaziona ngati kamadziwa ndale koma kakumana ndi anzake ozidziwa ndale , wakumana ndi anamatetule , mamulumuzana odziwa ndale anzake amuchesula kkkkkkk,,umaona mgati basi peter akamapanda kukuyankha ndiwe ochenjera eti ?tiona ngati mafumu akwanu avomere kuthetsa malata subsidy kkkkk
UDF idatha ngati makatani .Muluzi osalimbana ndi akazi uzilimbana ndi amuna anzako monga Kamlepo Kaluwa akuswe uwone.A Muluzi nzeru mulibe,ntchito umbava, ukhuluku,utambwali ngati bambo ako.Ngati udaphunzira pachinyezi usayese tonsefe tingaphunzire motero mukukweza school feez pamene makolo athu akukanika ndikupeza ndalama inu paja yanu ndiyongogura ma degree,zithu sizikutiyendera kuno.Bwerani ku DEDZA tizakuyankhani sikuti muzere mu mafumu mungawadyese ma sikono koma mutipeze Khomo ndi khomo
Not surprised! Atupele’s father championed politics of handouts. What should we expect from him? Lunguzi’s point is that that programme makes no sense when schools and hospitals are have no funding. Are you sure malata is more important that education? Shame on you Atupele.
mai wazelu uyu,anthu nonse mutakhalangat lunguzi osati muluzi
Lungus’ point is valid. Atupele should we say u r there because ur dad was president and u want steal like ur father.’
POLITICS OF SUBSISTENCE
He is the son of his father. The father learnt politics at the foot of the Great Ngwazi Dr. H. Kamuzu Banda. He quit active politics on the 9th May, 1982 after serving in both the party and government for quite some time.
The father became the first multiparty President. He taught us politics of subsistence. That politics which blurs the future and focuses on the short term objectives. No wonder we were subjected to Targeted Input Program where selected destitute farmers were being given 10 kg of fertilizer as if everyone of them had five lines of land for cultivation. This marked the genesis of perpetual hunger and poverty in our land.
He introduced Free Primary Education a phenomenon that was introduced by the MCP through GABLE (Girls Attainment of Basic Literacy in Education). This was in way intended to be a gradual way of promoting and retaining girls in schools to improve their levels of education. It was expected to graduate into a fully fledged program of free education when all the parameters were in place then. When the UDF got power, the program changed its name and was introduced into the education system haphazardly and ended up compromising quality of education in our land. We had had no enough qualified teachers to man the enrollment that abruptly surged and so too did we not have enough classrooms. As a nation we managed to have many children with access to basic education. It is however not clear whether all of them knew how to read and write even their names at the end of standard five.
She is the daughter of the last Inspector General of police under Ngwazi the Great in the MCP regime. The father and the father worked together in that regime. They are products of the beneficiaries of the MCP regime. Today they are both Members of Parliament representing rival camps of MCP and UDF. The son is however a Cabinet Minister. The point is, as there is no end in sight of shortage of drugs in our hospitals, there is also deplorable continuation of plummeting education standards in our country. This was epicenter of the line of departure of the two schools of thought by the daughter and the son.
The parents in rural areas are living in very pathetic houses and this is a sign that it would be unthinkable that such families could be sending their children to school. At the same time such families, when diseases attack would want to seek medical service at government hospitals yet the health institutions have been hit by drug shortages and deplorable medical care. In such a situation, then, what could be the immediate solutions to sustain the livelihoods of these people? What would be the long term solutions to bail out the nation from such pathetic situations the nation is sailing through? These were lines of departure that drew daggers between the son and the daughter in the House of Laws a few days ago.
The son being the product of a school of subsistence politics believes sustainability of provision of subsidized Malata and Cement Program is the best way to go even if children would fail to get their education. There is such the feeling that the houses are more important than when the lives of the occupants are faced with life threatening diseases which could find no remedy at the hospitals due to lack of medical drugs. On the other hand the daughter feels it is good that we save lives through “suspending” not cancelling the Malata and Cement subsidies so that the resources can be channeled towards subsidizing education of our children as a way of long term investment for the future of our nation. The argument being if we subsidize production i.e education, the products will be able to build their own houses. It is in the daughter’s wisdom that channeling the resources towards the purchase of drugs in our hospitals will help to save many lives which are being lost through curable diseases. When such lives are saved and they are able to send the children to school, there would be hope for a better future for the families and the nation at large
It is however sad that such wisdom shared, which still remains a preserve of very few in our society, fell on deaf ears who felt this is a jab in the political desires of the ruling elites. Whilst provision of Malata and Cement subsidies provides good political capital in the short term, the program is a stab in the development of the nation in the long term as is the case at the moment. It is really making little sense to leave our future leaders uneducated for better houses that will need maintenance yet the occupants will not have sources of resources for the same.
The donors seem not to be in support of some of these subsidies the poorest nation is embroiled in, their stand is clear on that one. The daughter has also given us another similar line of thought though “may be” not the stand of the party. The government insists they would want to maintain the status quo, it would be better leaving this issue to the public to judge at the end of the day than allowing the repeat of the 2008 to 2009 where the then ruling party used the puzzle between Sec 65 and the Budget to outwit the opposition outside the August House. You can already hear from the other side of the house that they are ready to deploy officers to Dedza East to find out whether the people there do not want this program. This sound more personal than political. Firstly, we will waste public money sending people for this exercise. Secondly, it is a waste of time to follow each and every Member of Parliament who provides alternative views down to his or her constituency just to drive home a political point. For example, how many MPs will have to be followed to their respective constituencies to find out whether re-introduction of JCE into our school curriculum is the necessary evil the nation has to do? As a nation we are implored to think of what kind of a nation we would want to bequeath to the owners- the children. As for our friends in Rwanda they chose the path to development as we continue wasting our time with politics of SUBSISTENCE. Below are sections of the cleanest city in Africa–Kigali
If only the top politicians, top government officials, top church leaders, and the opulent business moguls had their children in public schools, the institutions would have been getting maximum attention in terms of funding from the government purse but most if not all their children attend top notch private schools in foreign capitals and come back to feed us on subsistence politics that continue sinking the poor deep into abyss and quagmire of poverty.
Should we as a nation continue being a consumer of subsistence politics?
Mr Speaker Sir, I beg to move
This is the most awkward idea I have ever heard from a minister in the august house. We don’t need that fact finding mission in the first place because we know that it will be used as a conduit to drain financial resources in the name of allowances. Its sad that the minister is using a stone age approach to issues in this digital age, why do we have representatives in the house? Is the government telling us that it is going to adopt this approach to follow up whatever contributions are being made by MPs in the house? What a pedestrian appproach!
Mr. Atupele Muluzi,
It seems you are different from Bakili. You are a useless politician who can not read the situation at hand.
Malata subsidy is a total wastage of public funds. The hospitals are without drugs, food is in short supply. The Malata thing is prone to all sorts of abuse because of its poor set up and complicated procedures.
Ask Bakili why he never mentioned this in his 10 years period. He did not go to school but he could reason like a professor. Get advice please, mupusa nazo izi!
Iwe. Atupeele what she Is meaning is that theere is no transparency in buying these things kapena kuti kusalola kwachuluka
ogulitsa chipani khalidwe lake ndi limenelo
Why start with Lunguzi not Jacob Hara Area Uhhhhh? Mwina anakukana chiweme? Iwe muluzi ndiwe chisilu bwanji
Lunguzi’s politics is about attacking issues not people that’s what makes her powerful. Most of our politicians especially the old school ones are only good at attacking individuals. they can’t debate objectively on issues, they always have to make personal comments.
Cheep politics Muluzi! that’s why you are just used and abused in every gvt.
Juliana, Atupele could not understand you because you said education . If you had said ejukweshoni he would have understood you better.
Iwe Julian, mutu wako ukuyenda bwino kapena ukufuna kuti anthu akutenge ngati munthu? Ndiwe chitsiru wamva ndipo 2019 ukadzawinanso ndimwawi. Anthu anakuvotera chifukwa cha malemu Lunguzi koma sukudziwa lero wayamba zachamba tionesana.
Serious comments based on a story with no credible sources I.e. A rumour, malawians and trying to be ahead of events….. Kupupuluma
yes, it has to be shelved as those who benefit from are well to do persons.
a muluzi sha
This country can’t achieve anything that can keep us on the map coz wina akabwera ndi mfundo yabwino yoti ithandiza anthu akumudzi ndipamene wina amabwere ndi mtsutso wake.why Malawi why?
Atupele get the lady right, she is telling your government to priotise education and give it the necessary support it requires. You were building houses with Joyce Banda now with Peter for the people but how many have you done so far. Education is the backbone of every Nation. The more educated people we have the more better houses to be built. Not those Mbosho Mbosho as said by your old economist who is failing to turn around the sinking economy of this country. Do you think a villager will say no to a free house? It’s your father who messed up Malawians and turn them to lazy hand outs thirst people. Malawians can for themselves build houses if money is going to the hospitals, schools, the agricultural sector and the security. Empower the people to make their own income to build houses of their choice not hands outs.
What a childish response from a Cabinet Minister whom in 2014 aspired for the big post of President? By the way, is the learned Professor Peter Muthalika aware about responses such as these from his appointed Ministers? Honorable MP Lunguzi was looking at the issue from a bigger picture of things while the Honourable Minister Atupele Muuzi was looking at the same issue from a small and partisan picture. Keep it up Honorable Lunguzi,, most Malawians are behind you, this DPP Government will rule only for five years, Donors cannot come back with their Donor Money with this type of childishness within Cabinet Ministers.
Comrades and friends, I’m not surprised this comes from young muluzi. Malawi to know that there’s something called stealing government money (which is a serious offence) is because of bakili muluzi and he passed that to bingu and bingu took on board all the thieves from bakili called udf ministers and he called them dpp ministers…..then the thieving and looting continued. 5 years later bingo was wiped out of the face of the world and Joyce Banda chipped in and she changed the dpp thieving ministers into pp ministers and guess what? The looking continued….Joyce left and peter got back his ministers and thieving continues. If as a parent you send a child to school let’s say abroad to serve and save your country and happens to come back and join the thieves to loot and ruin the country he is supposed to protect and serve then I suggest you give up such a child for adoption or kick him out of your house. Mr bakili knows that as long as his son is with peter, his corruption case will be sitting in peter’s trash bin under his desk. My question therefore is, Mr bakili don’t you think you have betrayed millions of your illiterate Muslim supporters who who loves you unconditionally despite the fact that you are a biggest thief and the creator of all the corruption and all the misery that comes with it? Do you know that if it weren’t for you Mr bakili Malawians could have not known bingu or peter who in turn brought Joyce Banda to loot
Cheap politics by the minister. Is government going to visit every constituency whose MP makes a suggestion they(government) do not like? Are they going to visit Kamlepo Kalua’s constituency to ask if they agree with the call for forensic audit in the malata/cement subsidy?
For the record, government has been asking opposition to come up with suggestions on how to revive the economy, of which this suggestion by Hon Lunguzi, is one! Is this how you are going to treat the suggestions that you have been calling for?
Some politicians are just dumb! Suspension of a programme does not mean the programme is not needed in a constituency. How can a person be busy building a house when his son is in hospital and lacking drugs? If your son was sick and you had no fuel to take him to the hospital, would you take your money to buy cement and build a house? Àtupele, in case munakhalitsa ku UK anthu mmidzmu akufa kusowa mankhwala komanso kulephera kupita ku Chipatala chifukwa ma Ambulance alibe mafuta. Sometimes its better to be serious and stop politicking over lives of poor Malawians.
Mukupanga campaign u promised to create 500,000 jobs for youth. Now ur in gvt and we r waiting. Mukawamangira nyumba amphawi mukawagulireso zovala, zofunda, zakudya etc plus ma TV azikuonani pa mbc TV mukamanena mbwerera zanuzo.
Am just following foolish coments from subsidy people. Hope you will get 400 votes per constuance by 2019. Ikakhala njala yalowa yakhazikika pa malawi.
The issue of suspending Malata and cement subsidy inorder to direct resources to cutter for more urgent programmes , such as drugs, school welfare is a logical issue that may not call for Government wasting more resources to seek views from constituents. In times of limited resources,programmes that benefit a tiny fraction of the community need to be shelved for a while as we consider the welfare of the majority,like in the areas of health.
Like father like son.Onse mbuzi ndinso akuba
i think muluzi is intelligent to suggest that the pple of dedza east be surveyed on what lunguzi is claimin bcoz malata/cement subsidy is 4 d pple and not lunguzi.mps do not share d poverty pple experience.
I like her word”dont politicise the development”
I really doubt Muluzi. This lady has very serious arguments and bwana Muluzi is acting like a zubat
Za ziiii, ati kufuna kuthana ndi Lunguzi, simumuthatu ameneyu.
yes i surpot lunguzi here at thyolo at kwethemule village some one a very strong and working class person has received this malata and cement subcide in the name of his mother inlow who is old but this man is ussing that cement to finish his planned house is this what we taxed how can we working class people pay tax for some one to finish his planned house come and check these some small chiefs are very bad
Hon Atupile atumanye or watever u call urself, u shud not only ask Dedza east people, do it the whole country
Mankhawala mzipatala anagulidwa, koma akumabedwa. Wina wamangidwa ku LL dzulo wa ku Central, anaba mankhwala ankhaninkhani. Mabook boma limagula koma amabedwa. Kukweza school fees nkofunika nanga titani ngat sizitero.
Kodi inu a MCP, Mukufuna kut boma lizilipila aliyense ngakhale ongokhala pakhomo?? ndalama zake zichokera kutiko??
MCP MCP MCP, on the way to demolition. Muziwaso.
We need to understand what Juliana Lunguzi is saying in its context. She is not advocating abolition of the cement subsidy for its own sake. She is saying, and quite rightly that we just cannot afford the subsidy at the moment. Even mnyumba, ndalama zikavuta, some projects are shelved until things improve. Rhat`s all she is saying. Don`t politicize the issue.
Osamadabwa anthu anyau amakhala kumanda samadandaula za nyumba iyi ndi nyau yaikazi…….
Mbuzi ya atupele iweyo unaphuzira school yabwino chifukwa choti bambo ako anali akuba ndalama zama card thawi, uganize ukanakhala iweyo utabadwa mabanja anthu osowa chithandizo ungabve bwanji think about it ndi mzako akulamulayo ana kumamidzi xool akuifuna koma akusowa poyambila,chaka chino kuli njala adya cement kodi?
Atupele, you must be very stupid……..Iweyo pamene umapanga m’gwirizano ndi ife a Dieseal Petrol Palibe(DPP), unapita kwa anthu aku Constituency kwako nkuwafunsa kuti Ukafuna Dilu Fulumira(UDF) ikufuna imezedwe ndi DPP? Ndiwe mbuzi iwe Atupele,wamvaaaaaa?? Msungwana’yu walankhula zinthu zomveka zedi, osati n’sete zakozo iwe Atuuuuu. To borrow your father’s word, i would say foooooootseki!!!!!!!!.
Atupele thats very good. Finish this juvenile and impolite girl. All the time she looks for a fault in other people’s fairs.
Mankhwala Mzipatala alimo koma Ma Doc ndi ma nurse kuba,si anthu onse amafuna kuphunzira xul mpakana ku university,college…. komano wina aliyense amafuna kukhala ndi nyumba yabwino.Bwanji kodi anthu anyau mwasowa zokamba??
Muluzi has shown that he is worthy material to be a minister, he could first understand MP Lunguzi as she said ” Malawi economy is at crossroads let the government abolish the subsidy”, have a close look into education, health and our dying agriculture sectors. This. is making sense, but now the president and troop of idiotes (
Those that are calling the cement and Malata subsidy as not good are just useless as their empty heads.
Whatever we said in our DPP manifesto will be taken to its full implementation because that is what people voted us for and malata subsidy is one of them.
We are the mighty DPP . we are going to ask people from this stupid lady’s constituency and if they respond to the contrary,we are straight away going to unseat you come 2019. Kabwira beware, Menyani beware, Uladi beware, Kamlepo beware, Mlunguzi beware, Chakwera beware…………,. You are not going beyond 2019. We are the mighty DPP .
I agree with Mphepo Zinau. So Juliana thinks better than Atupele. The boy is a dunderhead.
Atupele Muluzi kodi wayamba misala? Mesa unkati ndale zothana zinatha? Lungizi sakulakwa coz mphawi agona nyumba yamakono koma akadwala akapeza kuchipatala kulibe mankhwala kodi mphawiyu akakwanitsa ku private clinic? Nanga ndalama yomangila nyumba imodzi atati agulile mankhwala hw many lives can be saved? Atupele zakumtoso zakozo uzikawu ana ako
Kkkkkkkkkkkk very stupid, mukakhala mu Parliament mumangosiza basi osamvetsetsa zimene anzanu a serious ndi miyoyo ya anthu akupempha, SHAME! MP Juliana Lunguzi
akupempha kuti kodi Programme yina yatsopanoyi singaime kaye poti zinthu zativuta
kuti tiyesetse kukwaniritsa zakale zikufoilazi? Atupele ndiye mukufuna political points
muli fwefwefwefwe kufuna kulimbana ndi maganizo a Munthu wanzeru Juliana. A Malawi akulira inu muli busy kuba. Tithandizeni a Malawi anzanufe!!!!
Nyasatimes is there a way of sending these comments to Atupele? I can’t believe he is running so shallow like this
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA Kodi Muluzi ndi president kapena member wa dpp??? Zaka zanu ndizochepa bwana kumaona kutsogolo….tikungokuonanitu,,, mutifuna
We need more sensible MP’s like Lunguzi, unfortunately the majority are imbeciles
Not long ago, Chakwera criticized this same subsidy proposing to empower people in increasing economic capacity than building free houses to the poorest of the poor. It is now his MP proposing the same but slightly with different option: abandon and divert the funds where it is needed most thus education. Now if we start abandoning projects which we feel that they are not important and suggesting to divert the funds to where they are needed most, we will experience financial chaos and we might end up not accounting for these transactions which could be vulnerable for theft. Legislatures should propose other independent sources of revenue and also tackling the issue of population growth which is growing at an alarming rate. Other areas which could leave surplus funds in Account no. 1 is though cost cutting and these are well known by these legislatures e.g travel allowances,housing allowances, just to mention a few.Perhaps this is what Muluzi would have liked to hear than getting his ministry targeted thus why his reaction.
SO ATUPELE YOU ARE AS FOOLISH AS THAT. AN EDUCATED SALVAGE WASTING TAX PAYERS MONEY TO GO AND BRIBE PEOPLE.
Why should the ruling party insist on the malata program as if it is their initiative. Is it not a copy of the Mudzi transformation trust that the first woman president of Malawi created. The argument on its relevance is logical. Political decisions nomaary derai governvement programs. Let us be smart and do differently from the people who lived in the past.If the indipendent Malawi had started with polititicians whose interest was to advance their political ambitions we would have had very little development. Let us now mature by making objective decisions.
We ought to give people means of surviving on their own rather than giving them handouts. After building houses for them they will bother the same MPs with school fees.
Like father like son. Old school stupid politics of thievery.
Dunderhead like his dad. Juliana is making sense!
This is another way where government is steeling people’s money. For example, go to Kasungu where those who have been given that chance of those so called houses are being treated at DC’s offices (Kasungu). Today we will bring the malata and cement tomorrow find your own transport yet there is already transport for that. Kubera anthu chabe mudzina la subsidy. Zitheretu zimenezi tizigula tokha osalimbana ndi onena chilungamo.
Stop subsidy and sort out agriculture/health and education
If MP Lunguzi’s claim is to scrap the programme, then her comments should have been directed at the budget or Minister of Finance or President, not shooting the messenger!
On the other hand, I find Atuplele’s response as pretty witty. He threw a political “JOKER”indeed, damn clever!!
If MP Lunguzi’s claim is to scrap the programme, then her comments should have been directed at the budget or Minister of Finance or Preseident, not shooting the messenger!
On the other hand, I find Atuplele’s response as pretty witty. He threw a political “JOKER”indeed, damn clever!!
we need education not handouts. Muluzi should resign
Only uncultured MP’s would target Lunguzi. She is fighting for poor tax payers and she is not rejecting the subsidy , but questions if this is the time to implement this?
Citizen
Am I the only one who sees Juliana Lunguzi as an attention seeker? ZA zii kodi ana ngati akugona pa misasa ku xul apita ko? Wld they even concentrate? Going to xul is not merely being in the classroom room but rather a combination of many things good housing being one of it, chakudya ndi zina ake. Penapake musamatilankhulise pambali A juliana nyumba yodontha simukuyiziwa ana okulira ku mpanda
Aaa aaa aaa akunena zimenezi baby Atupele weniweniyu?
Basitu kutha kwa Atupele ,UDF ndie inatha kale.
Bwanji osawafunsa bambo ako za ku Dedza? Muluzi anayesela kuwamanga OBABA ndi C. KAINJA koma sizinawathandize. Anayesela kuthandiza N. Onani kuti agwetse JZU koma sanakwanitse.
Bingu anapanganso timilandu tosadziwika bwino koma anaphwisa yekha.
Bingu anayesela kutuma ma MP omwe ankankadzitcha kuti achinyamata kuti akachititse manyazi Obaba ku DEdza ndipo anaiwala kuti alinso ndimadela omwe ankayang’anila zotsatila zake ambiri ngati si onse analuza kwawo,Bingu anapita kumpumulo wa bata ,lelo Bakili ndi JZU are friends.
Teach malawians how to fish.Handouts or subsidies wont take us anywhere.I think this country doesnt need politicians like Atupele.Peoples lives can change if government considers uplifting small scale businesses by offering them loans with small bank interests.But look at commercia banks that are charging 45-50% interest can any business survive?Surity.Heavy taxes everywhere.A lot of punitive measures.Ripping off from poor malawians.God rescue us from these devils who are interested in filling their pockets.Empower the community not individuals who benefit the malata and cement subsidy.We only hear of politics in radios .Waste of time.This country needs chief executive of a private sector not a politician like APM.
I consider both of you young, intelligent and having the future Malawi at heart. Atupele please run away from cheap fallacious politics, ndale za magogo. This is NOT the sort of argument I expected from you. I wont explain why you are terribly wrong on this one, suffice to say that you think it is better to give malata than strengthen the education system; you think its better to give people cement for housing than empower them to seek ways to find cement ndi malata. Pathetic: How many things will you keep on distributing and for how long??? Why not empower the people through education as the main tool of liberation???. Why not ensure that education is stopped from declining further??? You are young and much smarter than the old UDF that relied on distributing ma K5. Juliana may not have consulted but that is a different argument. Its the vision behind it that is solid. Men counsel you have failed us.
Diaspora Original
I regarded Atupele as a learned person but I have now realised that he is bankrupt upstairs. What this lady is saying makes sense. This malata and cement subsidy is bullshit. Please invest in productivity and people will be able to build their own houses. These subsidies will not take us anywhere.
Atupele I used to repsect you, your approach to matters and your sense of reasoning, why have you suddenly turned daft?
Sindimaziwa zoti Atupele ndi wobwerera mumaganizo choncho .People are watching you donot cry later on.Siya phazi osati pakamwa ungazalire mawa
I used to respect Atupele but if this is how his thinking capability is now then it is a such a shame for such a young.
Juliana is only proposing SHELVING the program for now so that Government can channel these funds to attend to more critical problems. Right now Government hospitals has stopped providing food to patients, imagine someone taking strong medication on an empty stomach? These are poor people who cannot even afford a bottle of Fanta for their patients, when admitted at the hospital they purely rely on hospital food. Now a young man like atupele reckons critical situations like these are nothing instead he wants to start playing politics with peoples lives at stake. Indeed like father like son Atupele is just as dumb as his father
She didn’t say stopping but suspending. You dunderheads, you seem not to know what you are saying. Stupid!
Tupele akuyika pamgodi, ube ngati atatu ako.
Young Muluzi outwits Juliana.Tiziwona chaka chino
We r in shit because of muluzi
And now the son is rubbing it in
Stupid!!!!!
The honorable minister is displaying lack of objectivity.Such utterencies are too low for a man of his caliber.
So what does Lunguzi want? To scrap off malata and cement subsidy and replace it with school fees or ufa subsidy? Get things straight please, u can’t remove one “evil” and replace it with another “evil”.
That’s a clever one Atupele. Let all MPs who feel the Malata-Cement subsidy for the ultra poor is not necessary or wanted register their names and their constituencies shall be withdrawn from the program accordingly. Sizokakamiza iziiiii! If their demand is based on political considerations, they will have to answer to their people, period!
Its not they dont want cement or malata subsidy but the system is not benefitting malawians. OK when did this programme started and when are you giving Dedza east costituents malata and cement? Atupele paja u didnt qualify for a degree eti? Understand what Lunguzi is saying and she is using simple english. Why asking chiefs yet Mp is a respresentative of these people? Then get the chief into the house. Sikochitira ndale uko.
If this is true then DPP is now a listening government. They will act according to what people on the grass-root level will tell them. Very encouraging indeed, politics or no politics.
STOP MALATA SUBSIDY:People are not happy with this programme.For example GroupVillage Headman with twelve Villages is given 7 houses.How can identification ofbenificiaries not bring conflicts to communities.This will contribute to other people who will not be identified to shun participating in community development activities.STOP THIS PROGRAM. CHEMWA JULI KEEP ON FIGHTING !! WE ARE WITH YOU!!DONT FEAR!!!
Sad that my young brother has missed the very important point from Sister Lunguzi. Malata subsidy is not viable with the current economical situation. National issues first bambo
Anapinyolitsa chipani awa kupepera
really this is coming from the minister?. The idea from the mp was that it is just draining the resources. Be serious akuluakulu
IZI NDI ZIMENE ZIMACHITIKA ANTHU AKATHA NZERU KUMABAKILANA ZINTHU ZOPANDA NDERU LUNGUZI NDI MKAZI KOMA AKUKUPOSANI NZERU AMUNA MU PARLIAMENT
Even at that time it was MULUZI Vs LUNGNUZI, Remember? But the ADVICE was given in good faith looking at the ECONOMIC SITUATION. It is bad that the government has decided to go political
Mr Speaker Sir, Muluzi is out of Order, it is un parliamentary to take a Particular MP’s contribution to their constituency. if any contributor would have to face such un parliamentary situation then there would be no contributor at all. lets not be childish in this August House.
We want you guys to stop bickering in that house. You make me furious when you play with my tax on these petty issues. I thought you are meant to be law makers? What law are you making by the stupid noise you are raising here. Discuss issues not this type of petty business. I do not care whether the so called malata and cement subsidy continues or not. I am concerned with the audacity on the part of you fools discussing something that doesn’t add value to the life of poor malawians in a quest to score cheap political kudos. Shupiti
Our current cabinet comprises very questionable intellectuals who can not produce exceptionally good solutions to a lot of challenges our country is facing. Just check what is coming from this group of unpatriotic citizens!
This stupidity runs in the family. Like father like son. Malawi is on its knees because of the selfish agenda of Bakili Muluzi who is a father of this failure of a son. Malata and cement subsidy is a gimmick when the people can hardly afford a decent meal in a day. Tell your president and chilima that Malawi does not need such kind of subsidy. Improve the economy and the living standards of the people will mean they will have enough to spare for a decent house. That’s more sustainable than giving a hungry person a shack with no food and basics.
The malata subsidy only benefits your friends who are the suppliers of this scam. Wake up and get a life, Atupele!!
MUKUKAFUNSIRA KAPENA CHANI? CHONDE NDISIYIRENI KANGA!!
Muluzi you are also the ex presidents son you have no idea what its like to not have fees. Simple logic is required here, if you were a poor parent and had to choose between buying malata and paying xool fees for ur children what would you choose?? Malata and cement really. This is your way of stealing stop this nosense mbuzi za anthu inu
iwe muluzi usatibowepo Apa asaa
Atupele Muluzi is daft
If this is true, then no surprise, DPP doing dirty politics, garbage and trash politics
Tiye nazoni.