Malawi govt accused of scaremongering: Ngwira says federalism is not war
President Peter Mutharika has been criticised for dispatching his aide Symon Vuwa Kaunda to palm oil chiefs in the northern region and do scaremongering against federalism calls, claiming if allowed it will trigger civil war.
Among those petitioning for the North Malawi to be a standalone state or federal system of government is People’s Party (PP) provincial chairperson Reverend Christopher Mzomera Ngwira.
He has accused government of “blatant scaremongering” and using misleading statements to chiefs to campaign against North to become a standalone entity like South Sudan.
Vuwa Kaunda has been meeting chiefs in the north in what he says are “consultations” on federalism and secession debate.
Kaunda said he is on a mission delegated by President Mutharika and of course , giving handouts to chiefs to speak against the federism.
Also targeted are religious leaders in the north.
But Ngwira said the north’s destiny is with the people in the region and not “selfish leaders” who he said are “getting positions and millions of taxpayers’ kwacha” in countering the emerging calls for federalism and secession.
Ngwira stressed that it is well documented that the North has long been sidelined, deceived and taken for a ride.”
He dismissed “scaremongering” tactics that federism or secession will spark civil war.
“The north has highest literacy rate and the people cannot be hoodwinked with the scaremongering. When multiparty democracy campaign emerged it was the same scaremongering that multiparty would spark war,” he pointed out.
Ngwira said all the chiefs who have spoken against North Malawi independence are saying so under the influence of “money being distributed.”
He said: “ DPP [Democratic Progressive Party] is using the same old mistake of abusing chiefs to speak against the voices and wishes of their people.”
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I totally agree kuti aNgwira aona liti kufunika kwa federal state/secession? Oohh because he is no longer in govt!! This just shows how greed these people are,they feel that once the federal system is implemeted, they will automatically assume topmost positions, thats their thinking which in reality is not. Borrow a leaf from the Scottish referendum? u cannot take people for granted,za federal system anakambapo anzanu late Dr. Dennis Nkhwazi (MHSRIP) and people were not for it. In fact, the opposite is true, ask Central and Southern region if they agree with this development! hahahahahahhaha!!
You cannot stop people’s will!
chimtonga chindere iwe wapulika. wakupasa vichi vya nyasi kuti unene ngwira na mkandawire?? Chindere iwe!!!!!
vuwa ndiwe chigalu cha munthu, look at mzuzu _ nkhata bay road wovesachisoni, ngati iwe chigalu
zikuku sangalasa manyi ako wava. federa go on northern I love is
Wo ngugalu iwi ngwira ndi mkandawire vazeleza mosi imwi mwavwa kupusa
chindere iwe chimtonga!!!
This so called Reverend Ngwira is a pathetic being. He is bitter for dumping DPP and joining PP. He was looking for instant gratification in the PP which unfortunately turned out to be short-term. When he was in DPP we thought he is a wise guy little did we know that he is just a manipulative selfish snitch. Sorry Abusa but leave Malawi alone and to hell with your selfish motives…..
I thought Anthu akuno mumafuna anthu akumpoto atachoka ndiye osawalola bwanji apite.
I said one time kuti inu akumwera simungagwire ntchito popanda anthu akumpoto. They know how to work hard atumbukawa. tread carefully with these guys they know what they are saying. Believe me! Almost 90% of northerners are behind Christopher Ngwira and Harry Mkandawire. Why should people fight and be arrested when they are exercising their freedom of expression. They are not even contravening any law. What they are saying is a constitutional suggestion which will require referendum to pass in parliament. Believe this Federal System call will triumph. I agree with Vindere views below.
Lets call for a referendum to get a popular opinion on the subject as accusations and counteraccusations will not take us any far.
When Rhodesia and Nyasaland were one country, Nyasaland was the poorest with lots of Thengere among the three because all the developments were concentrated only on the two Rhodesias that’s why Kamuzu said enough is enough and sesseded. Look where Nyasaland is now,less thengere at least and economically are better off on their own. What am implying here is that when one area is sidelined know for sure that one day they will demand independence so that their fate be in their own hands.This is happening all over the world not just here in Malawi.Now Malawi tighten your seat belts because we are going into a roller coaster ride.
very right and the whites were very much against this because they were saying like u want seccesion nyasaland and yet u are the poorest among the 3 ??????????, and the nyasa said yes, it is better off to be poor than pretend am rich, that was what was born to be called malawi so no matter insults north seems to have a point i tell u, u will be shocked, even the development was much concetrated in south rodhesia and north rodhesia that is why zambia, zimbwabwe are better off than maalwi coz whites did alot in these areas than nyasaland wakeup from slumber the wind of changge is real!!!!!
akopoli inu mukuti chañi kodi tikakuthamangitsani kumwera kuno mupitakuti høw many are u working in the south , chitukuko mukunenacho chitheka bwanji poti munagula malø ku mwera ndikumanga nyumba zabwino forget about ur north
It is because inuyo kumwera kwanuko ndinu osaphunzira ndiponso atulo.
tupid federaton of Wellensky Ngwira
A lot of castigating even together with innocent people, non politicians.
Please DDP allow the north to do what they want. It looks like they are ready to pay and bear consequences together with their children and generations to come. The spirit of wanting to rule by themselves is what is being manifested in places where the top bosses, hrms, are leading. We are witnesses to this. They would rather fill in vacancies with people from their tribe or region. This is the spirit behind all this. They are not ready to employ other tribes where they are leading. These are the facts on the ground. So if they want to stand alone or indeed have federation, why not? Let it be. If the Centre feels the same let it be. If not then let the federal government be given to the north. Some of us are tired of all this. It is unfortunate that this is originated by my fellow Reverend. I do not know which Bible he is reading and believing. Does God condone division? Jesus even prayed that those he left behind be one because him and the Father are one. Now why do people want to be divided? Hungry for earthly wealth? You mean you cannot discuss and agree, but division is a solution? OK. Once again please stop castigating other tribes. Nyasa times, you are the media but you are not promoting peace and unity. If you are for this division please advise the politicians accordingly other than promoting this unwelcome development. Can you please stop posting this provoking subject on this type of media. I would ask you to look for another way of presenting this. Do not make people fight on things that could be discussed and agreed.
# SECESSION ==============NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ——–NO
# STANDALONE =============== NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ——-NO
# DIVIDING MALAWI =========== NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ——–NO
**** SHARING DEVELOPMENTS AND POWERS ———- YEEEEEEES ==== YES
*** FEDERISM ————— YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES ======YES.
BUT NO WARS, WE ARE OF ONE FAMILY, PEOPLE OF ONE GOD —– + AMEN +
Kodi inu nkhanga muli ndi malo olima mumabekana ngati makoswe anthu osadziwa family planning. Ndiye mkachoka kuno mkafikira kuti?
People from the North also want have Train stations, iternational airport like other rigions.
Just imagine in the north there is only on University while in the South there are Four Universities and the northerners are being cheated with the Mombera which has been a story since 2008 it was mentioned at the same time when the University of Science and Techknology was mentioned and the later is now in operatiobn while the Mombera is still in the egg please the northeners lets fight until we get what we want there so many examples of countries that are under this system and things are working osati zathuzi kumangodyeredwa masuku pa mutu please Goodal, Vuwa think of your brothers , sisters nephews nieces and cousins at your home village before you put on your political masks.
Iwenso ndiopusa eti? MaUniversity akuSouth’wo mesa amadzazanso ndi anthu akuNorth omwewo? Mukufuna chani kwenikweni? Maboza basi
people from the north let us unite and fight the good fight i believe we will win with blood of Jesus on our side. Leaders from the north please dont let us down, dont give up no matter how taugh it gets fight the good fight, we are all behind u .
Mr Ngwira the majority supports your ideas but please note that people do not support federalism but independence. People are tired with the greed of your people. Continue fighting for the change until Malawi is free. We are tired of your people always opposing governments. There is no leader that you have not opposed apart from JB because she is married to a northerner.
The North fear not, Secede!!! Period!!! Resources for development are there, Coal, uranium.Diamonds, Oil, Water, Fish, Nyika National Park, Viphya, Tobacco/Maize Farms,Emeralds, Cattle, Tea almost everything for development are there including human resource, well educated people.The North can be transformed within FIVE (5) years!!!!!
Coal is not a valueable mineral. The rest are also found in the other regions. So we will lose nothing. Remember the Tanzanians area after their part of the lake and we will leave you to fight alone. Koma mulimba?
In addition aja a Tanzania akagwiririla anganya akupoto inu mukuwona
Big mistake, the north will not fight TZ my friend. There is nothing to fight for!!! The north will be very dependent on tz for access to the ocean!!!
Why cling to the North if the North wants to go? They always say we are bad: odzikonda, onyada, ophangila etc. Ok if that is true then LET US GO! Northerners would rather live in mud and glass thatched houses in the Nyika republic rather than live in Mansions in the South and be called names! Yes, Mulhako, we want to go and we will sell all our properties so that you can have space! After all Mulhako does not have Malo, anatha ndi Tea plantations!! I hate Mulhako heavy!!!
North pride, you are being naive here. It is not as easy as you say. People from the centre and south are ready to let you go dont kid yourself. Most i know will like to see you guys go. But are noherners ready to go? Consider the Israelites during exodus. These are guys that were literally slaves not owning mansions and being top executives of companies. Yet they murmered against God on the way for every small problem that they faced. Imagine then if they were living big in Egypt, how much would they have murmered.
Thinking all will be rosy when you become independent is complete naivity my friend. Up until the time you will realise that if a place is not congested by northerners it does not necessarily mean that the people from the region have been marginalized, the better citizen you will become
inu my friend,
u seem so much worried with how north will live after seccesion, and not how south will live after seccesion, u only talk of negative consquensce of north secceion and u dont talk of side effects of such secceion from south point of view, u think north is all about bad things?????? i will be happy if u presnt facts about north departure having an effect of the rest of malawi, then i will trust ur opnions otherwise u seem only to scare!!!!!!!
Mr. Christopher Mzomera Ngwira, you are the real man. We need people like you. Yes! You must push for secession until this Muthalika punch. Oh ya. What people must know is that Northerners are always united. They eat together, they dance together, they cry together. Even they laugh together. When you hurt one northerner, you hurt them all and they will fight together . So what Muthalika is doing by palming oil the Chiefs is just wasting his time and resources. Even Ada Vuwa Kaunda himself knows where he stand. Chiefs will never leave their children crying for development and keep quiet. I don’t think so.
That is what is wrong only that you dontnsee it. We are Malawians and as Malawians we ought tondo that with everyone, but as you said that is a correct description of you guys. That is why for you guys fairness is when every place is filled with Tumbukas, colleges, workplaces. If someone says we need to take a person from another area, then it is a crimengainst the north, that is what is wrong. I did not say it, you just did. Now sit down with each other and see what is wrong with what you have just said
Atumbuka inu zipitani kwanu kutchire kuja . anyima ,inu anthu okuda BIIIIIIII ngati aku Ghana, kodi olo mukakamire dziko limakhala lopanda Capital city , anthu okunya mmadzi , pakunyapanu zamachisilu eti.
Eeeeeeh koma ndiye ikukupweteteka bwanji?Kaya ufune kaya musafune ife wautali basi!Baadyani achule anuwo!kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!
Dr Sani, Kusiyana kwa ife ndi inu ndi kumeneko. Inu ndinu ma expart potukwana basi. Mulibe mfundo. Kodi inu simungaziyang’anire nokha ngati ndinu anzeru. Chodabwitsa ndi chakuti simukumvetsa kuti federal govt. ndi chiyani andipo imayenda bwanji. Palibe amene azapita kwawo pamene ali mu Malawi ya federal system. Pepani aMalawi otukwana sitikuwafuna. Tikufuna onse ofuna kutukula dziko mmadela onse.
Tawasiyileni ka mpoto kawoko ndiponso kuyambila lero Mombera University Tikayimanga ku Mtchinje ap bii ku Dedza. Ana anjoka inu tatopa nanu mwamva. Anthu aku mmwera ndi pakati bwelanikoni kumeneko nafenso tiwapitikitse ankhwitotowa azipita kwao. Lero ndadzindikila kuti Kamuzu sanali wa nkhanza anadziwa Atumbuku kuti ndi oipa zedi.
Anthu a kumwera musawanamizire inu mutsala nokha angulu inu ndi asena ndi achawa munya muona tiona mmene muthere. Mwayamba kale kulira bwa!
Anthu a pakati musawanamizire inu mutsala nokha angulu inu ndi asena ndi achawa munya muona tiona mmene muthere. Mwayamba kale kulira bwa!
Pangani zimenezi kuti enafe tiyambepo kupeza ntchito. Aliyense kwaonkwao!
Ineyo ndikumva kukoma.Mpoto loyo!!
Ngwira you are really inspiring me with what you are doing,caary on fighting for the pple of the north and its just unfortunate kuti nzako Bofomo anatuluka mu parliament koma otherwise ukuyitha nkhondo.
Atumbuka go go go! We want our jobs that you monopolized! Do it fast! Who wants the hilly North? Musambirenge makolo para mwakhumba kukaona ku Blantyre!! kikkkkkkkkkkkkk Muyisovenge!!!!!!!!!!!!
A Malawi, we are one and need each other. Zonyozana izi zachikale. Let us not spoil our children. If Obama became President of the USA, pachedwe pasachedwe the North shall produce a President for Malawi….not only the Northern Region. This is my prayer.
We are so many of us in exile with PhDs in Computer Sciences, Aeronautics, Neurology, Biometrics, Electronics you name it from North and we want to come home in a free Northern country and develop it. We do not want be ruled by these coward Lhomwes who have always be afraid of Northerners and cold blooded murdered 20 innocent people and frankly we do not have anything in common. You cannot fool people always. Its just a matter of time when the judgement day will come and they will answer for their atrocities when their safe imposed immunity will expire. Mzomera we are behind you and by the God’s grace victory is on our side. Its just a matter of time whether someone likes or not, the Northern region will be free whether someonfooe likes it or not using all available means.
let them go in peace otherwiz we wil be wastin our time,energy n even resources tryn to reason wt unthankful nepotinistic bwengus. If for xample u go to malawi liverpool welcome trust in blantyre u wl find out hw ey have managed to fill e org.as if they’re e only deservn yet they’re lots of young intelligent pipo wit necesary papers who cn ably fill e positions bt are denied e chance bcoz they’rent e mpotos or bwenguz. So go go go mpoto go!
WHY WASTING TIME ON THESE ISSUES. Let thoise who wants to form their own country go. The y will coming to THE SOUTH ON VISA.. those WITH THEIR HOUSES IN SOUTH WILL NOT BE AUTOMATICALY BE TAKEN AS CITIZEN THEY WILL ALSO BE AAPPROVED OF THEIR VISA STATUS OR CITIZENSHIP. ngwira God bless you with your ddirty plans you foolish pp faiulure
Who do you want scare? Thats very cheap of you.
Fedaral system is not that bad but the ploblem here is that it is being introduced for their personal interests,mind you let that bill pass then you wil see how you Tumbukaz are hated,WARNING ! you wil run for your lives
Your country called Malawi is a just village. We are not even proud to be part of it. Its a big shame. We want to teach you how to run and develop a prosperous nation.
APM usaope northerners are peaceful people. We live peacefully wth those from Thyolo farming in our tobacco estates. So make it faster. We want to develop the Nyika Republic!
Zonama, it is true in the current regionalistic voting patterns a north person can never become president of Malawi. You people in the south and centre have actually told us many times. And you are right!!! The only honest thing you tell us!!!
I find it laughable and unbelievable your assertion that the north doesn’t have candidates worth becoming presidents. If Bakili, Bingu, JB and now Peter can become presidents, then it is obvious anyone in Malawi can become president. What qualities do these people have that a north man or woman doesn’t have? So please stop lies!!!
The truth is tribalism and numbers!!! And you know it. By the way you are not from the north!!! The north always start political change in Malawi, but do they get the presidency, no!!! In any other country in the worlds where they mostly don’t vote on tribal lines, chihana’s could have been the president after Kamuzu but because he lacked numbers Bakili won. He lacked numbers purely because of his tribal!! Some people were accusing chihana’s of being tribalistic or nepotistic but are these not the same qualities that Bingu had, Bakili and Peter have?
It is even wAste of time and money for any north person to form a political party, the best is just to join anyone of these national parties who have the numbers to back up themselves. If you can’t win on your own, just join them. Hence the change in the north voting pattern that truly reflects mature educated people who understand democracy!!!
Secession Is the only answer for those north politicians who are after power and ruling. Federalism will not take you far.
While i agree with you that most of the presidents we have had are crap and that it is a numbers game, blame Chihana for his nepotistic attitude why the north has not produced a president. I can tell you I know several people from the central and south who were part of the pressure group that turned into AFORD. These were people that were even arrested and imprisoned. But what happened when political pluralism was introduced .Chihana filled his executive with the people from the north. What a mistake. Now do you think people would vote for a party like that? I can also confess that people from the north vote strategically for whoever they think will bring positive change to them so in this way i give kudos to the region. However, people from the north in general are also very nepotistic and while you are making noise about political positions, you are very bad at positions that matter to ordinary Malawians. I would not mind whether the whole cabinet is full of people from one district as long as an ordinary Malawian i have the chance of getting a job even if the boss is Tumbuka. If my chances are slim just because the organisation is filled by people from one region then I have real things to worry about not political positions
Hey atumbuka zopitani kwanu kumpoto, I for one dont think u have anything positive to offer to Malawi as a nation. Mutichedwetsa do it sooner. Be assured we will be ur partners in business, importing prostitutes frm the mbwenu republic. Go now pliz pliz, go go!go! pliz pliz pliz pliz go this year. Pliz go north pliz pliz
Indedi wanena bwino. Tsalani bwino ndi kadziko kanu kotsalira mochititsa manyazi ka malawi kanuko. Who would want to be part of this mess and your mediocre leaders, starting from a chair, the JC ex criminal convict, to Bingu the drunkard, then amayi the mandasi queen! Shame!
JB mandasi queen? Lero? I thought all regions rejected here except you guys.mwhat did you see in her? Why ridiculing her today? Dont shake her off today. You wanted to rule from the back door but even that would not have been possible. dis she just not let Khumbo Kachali go? I dont why you guys thought she was the best of the bunch. Purely for selfish reasons and not for the interest of Malawians
Let the chiefs eat y the money and finally stand with the people. The president is tooooo nepostic so federal government is the best now.
Go on Ngwira we support you.
Chausiru ndichi Khumbo achifinya a dpp pano chikukanika kutulukako no where to go he he he. ..we stand with you mzomera….
Let it happen
just let it alone
Number 18 kenkk wayankhula mawu onveka. You have clearly painted a very clear picture of what federalism is. Federalism is about governance. people will not need pass ports to move from central/south region to the north,aliyense will work anywhere. Countries like Tanzania(Tanganyika + zanzibar) South Africa(Gauteng+ cape town+ Mpumalanga+ KZN+ etc) are federal govts and people move and work anywhere they want. Unfortunately here in Malawi both the proponents and opponents palibe amene akufuna kunene zoona za federalism. i don’t know whether its out of ignorance or deliberate move to mislead people.
We are behind. You ngwira
Kodi ivi viwanthu vifunanji abale? Who will develop the North if you yourself develop Lilongwe and Blantyre instead of your homes? When you people from the north enter a Malawi Housing House, you never leave until you retire and die there. Mudatani Kodi? Chitukuko Mulibe so who do you think will develop the north apart from you northerners? Do you expect a person from Phalombe to develop Mzimba or Rumphi? Shame on you. You never want to go home or even to visit your parents fearing your heartfelt witchcraft and now you expect us to go kwinu oku and develop your areas para imwe mukukanako?
Shame on you all. This will not work and you better die. How can you equate South Sudna with your 2km long and 1 km wide Northern region. AGALU.
Galu Ndi Mako Ndi Wotata Wako !!! Kapoli
Phyatangu, you are one of the many ignorant people who can’t understand or know what type of development we are talking about!! You are talking about individuals building their own houses In Lilongwe or BT for investment and or own occupation. The same individuals have also built their houses in their villages in the north!!! That Is the reason north villages are better than those in the south and centre.
But the development we are talking here are roads, higher education universities, airports, govts hospitals, etc. Are these built or owned by individuals?
So stop talking rubbish, please.
you are a liar kumpoto kulibe nyumba ngati ku lilongwe /BT kuli tinyumba ta round. kodi inu ambwenumbwenu mukamakhala ma session clerk mumaona ngati ndinu ofunikila ku malawi kuno inu ndi makasu athu basi. tikukwateni mutivotere tikutayeni
kodi ma university wo, zipataalazo, miseuyo ndi zina mukunenazo akamangira ndani poti inu muli pwi kuno, kutithera malo pliz ndokoni we wish u all with your new state ok
Boma imanga, you don’t know that!!! Ndani anamanga museu wa Karonga – chiweta, ndi boma basi!!! Did you construct that? Did the tumbuka working in the south or central construct that? It is the govt that does that!!!
It seems you don’t know what you are talking.
Mwamuna azipereka mimba. Mlamu wako ndi mkazi wako iwe chitsiru eti. Chimulomwe cha kanundu. Alomwe NDE ntchito zawo za uhule. Leave ngwira alone . Federalism for north. Mafumu akudyerani ndalama ZANU ulere. Akuziwa za federal system of government. Mafumu athu ndi a geli heavy.
we don’t want that federal government we want you to be an independent state, so that mumasuke and leave us alone for good, muzikakwatana bwino ndi ache azilamu anuwo, stupid people.
Ngwira udziwe chakuti malawi ndi wang’ono kuno kumpoto makhawo usanene thengo chifukwa cha sec65 inakupweteka umasintha zipani azungu akati dead anorth amadziwa kuti malo amapiri wa yamba tsako . anthu akudela kwanu asadzakusankhe ndiwe wapokosa .
Mukuopa Chiyani a Central Ndi South? No 20 U KNow Nothing
Sizokamba zopeleka mimba apa, inu mwapanga zingati, check the subject matter you foolish idiot, if you want to talk of kupereka mimba munyumba momo, comment on Balaka today that tops the list on this, here we are talking of federalism not kupereka mimba, foolish man.
Eish koma tu angwirawa atitopetsa! You have made your point now go ahead and take the next step then instead of fighting or speaking through the media. It just shows that you too are not sure of what step you want to take next. Let’s assume Government gives the nod, what next? Plan plan and plan before making noise. Paja ochewa timati: chibekete chopanda kanthu chimalira zedi…
I am happy Malawi is coming up, everyone has the freedom to contribute.
I will not hide that am for federalism but not secession. Ngwira did not talk about federalism during Joyce Banda because every sane Malawian will agree that JB tried to equate the cake except the education quota system which could have ended by now if she had won elections. Forget about Vuwa, this is the tribe that sold the north power to Kamuzu, I mean Olton, he fought a good fight and ended up surrendering power to Kamuzu on a silver platter. Vuwa is a disgrace to the north because he is just a dpp puppet. My good elders, check this out, read carefully about this federalism, it is the best system and this is why I support the system. Vuwa should stop what he is doing and let people debate freely, the centre also is for it, ask Kazombo, Menyani they will tell you this is the way to go, am wondering why a pure tumbuka should should say no to this, are you mad, church people, mainly our man and our future governor, Nyondo, speak something on this please, we are lost without you. For Mzomera, just change your approach, you can’t fight alone, see people, I and my people are available, don’t be emotional this is a won battle just swallow your pride and consult. Goodal is busy making his last khobbo, why so quiet, thus is why someone said you are not a politician but a dpp puppet who is always called when things are bad, just fix the economy when done, you will see the Peter’s boot. Help your people Goodal, this is why I hate matchona, no sympathy with their own people. Malawi debate wisely, no insults, we are all one but governance is the problem and the talk is about to bring equity, lets find a solution together.
kodi ndiwe mphunzitsi?
PP akuti ukaphonya mpira usaphonye mwendo. Izi ndizomwe JB ndikusaganiza kwakeko wamuuza Ngwira kuti so long as you make phokoso so that DPP stops on development and concentrates on this. My advice to DPP is that never lose sleepless nights on this. Just go on developing Malawi without considering regions. keep on face-lifting the North, (Jenda, Livingstonia, etc). When it comes a point that we should go federal, accept to have referendum. But in this referendum let every Malawian vote. One thing will happen. Knowing how these friends from the North behave, the South and the Centre will vote Yes (as a gesture of good riddance) while the North will vote No. With this the North will break away and those who advocate zinophorbia will chase multitudes and multitudes. That will be a sorry state. I suggest Ngwira keep on fighting. may be Malawi will be less noisy without the calibre of the Ngwiras. Koma nfundo ndiyoti amanuwo akuputsitsani. DPP and APM sangagwedezeke ayi. tayembekezani 2019 mudzaone mmene DPP idzakugagadireni pazisankho. The proponents of feudalism should not be misguided thinking South and Centre are threatened by this noise. Just a piece of advice.
what is this confused fool wearing?
Dzipitani kumpotoko nyumba,ntchito zonse tisiyireni
GO ON Mr NGWIRA YOU ARE DOING GOOD THING TO THE PIPO OF NORTH, ACHEWA AWA WATIKWANA WAKUONA NGETI ISE TIRI VINDERE PAIVYO WAKUTICHIRA. LUTIRIZGANI DADA KUGONGOWA YAYI TIRIPAMSANA WINU !!!!!
This Ngwira has no head
I fully support u mr ngwira, lets stand alone, ukapanda kuimaliza tchito waiyambayo I will tek over right away from where you hav stoped!! you can count on me
IDIOT, I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WANT AN INDEPENDENT STATE, NOW ITS FEDERALISM, TOMORROW ITS DEVOLUTION, THE DAY AFTER UKUFUNA UNDUNA KAPENA MPANDO WINAWAKE WONONA. THE TRUTH OF MATTER MR NGWIRA IS TGAT JOYCE BANDA IS FOOLING AND DECEIVING YOU. MALAWI WILL ALWAYS BE ONE NATION.
inu a tumbuka mwatikwana mwasanzika mwakwana zinyamukani muzipita kwanu muzatiuza mukasankha president wanuyo sitingakudwaleni anta pa ng’ono. tizingomva za inu inuyo kutani inuyo, ngwira akukusogoleraniyo akhale wa umunthu akanapeleka mimba kwa ng’ono wa mkazi wake oti amamusunga nyumba mwawo ngati mwana wawo, ukumpangitsa mlamu wako kusakwatiwa unamuonongera mbiri amuna amangomusiya reverend wotembereredwa iwe.
21 you are an idiot, low minded and your brain is full of water. An enlightened person does not tow between tribal lines.
Dr. Godfrey Mvuma….or whatever you call yourself….are trying to deny the truth that he impregnated his inlaw…
I mean I am from the north but let the truth be told….though the issue here is about federalism but this man is an idiot….what kind of reverend is this one….A reverend kumachinda mlamu mpaka mimba koma ziliko.
iweyo ndi amene uli chindere, zipitani kwanu mukapange nyika yanuyo mu chikangawa tidzakupangeni xenophobia infact thats what we want, munatibera malo a makolo anthu ife kumasowa komanga nyumba inu mutasiya tchire kwanuko ndipo it will be a blessing for us mwatikwana mbuzi zosavinidwa inu, anthu opanda khaliidwe mulibe umuthu olo
What I should advise people from the North is that the sort of noise they are making now in regards to federal system of Government shall in the future be regrettable not Only buy you the Ngwiras but Mostly your children.Look! tell me what resources can you run the Government on? Abale anga,even if you talk of taxes you rely upon South and Centre regions and what have you? The noise currently being made by our brothers and hopefully not sisters in the North holds a teaspoon of water. In a certain country where I once lived people made quite a lot of noise about which currency they ought to use apart from their own which was time and again on a floating levels.People had voted for the use of foreign currency and yet their country depended on mineral in that particular country.IMWE MWA BATHU THERE WAS REALLY OUTCRY AND THIS IS WHY IFE TANYINU RUN AWAY BACK TO OUR POOR COUNTRY. And who ever started this issue in Parliament ,I really question his education levels.Does he know the current population of his region? Unless you want to combine Kasungu,Ntchisi and Kotakota, may be it can work but so doultful.
You are an idiot. The North has more resources than the Central and the South. There is coal, uranium, nobium, and oil all in North. The resources have not been developed because in Malawi everything is supposed to be in the South. If the North was to be independent it would thrive.
Let me think before I comment
Inu, while I agree with some if the issues you rAise, you have however gone too far on some issues. You have also not grasped the real meaning of federalism.
Why quotAs on jobs? That is scaremongering. Federalism doesn’t mean people have to work only in their own regions. Malawians will still work anywhere in Malawi. It Is only the running of regional govt and control of regional developments such as some infrastructures that will change.
Yes budget is allocated proportionally but is also allocated based on need. So the first allocation is based on population , then a second allocation is based on need. That is how federalism works. So the north being behind in development, will receive more of the need allocAtion to catch up. So please don’t try to cheat us with lies!! I also don’t think you are from the centre. You are DPP and scared that the south power will be significantly eroded.
You are also wrong on taxes as well because all will go to central govt and are part of money allocated proportionately. You forget that the north will contribute a lot because of its resources which will be controlled by central govt, say minerals, tobacco, etc.
Local taxes will be less I agree but that will be the same even in the centre and south. Overall the north will have more money than it currently receives from central govt.
I am not an advocate of federalism, I prefer the status quo and hope the govt will see sense and significantly change its attitudes towards the north and even the centre. So far I am not encouraged by the govt actions and my next preference is actually secession if the govt doesn’t deliver on issues such as tribalism, nepotism, development issues, education quotas, etc.
Federalism will still continue with a south president always unless you throw in rotational of presidency as part of the federalism agenda. So the north unless by default will as the DPP people say Never rule Malawi politically or produce a president simply because we don’t have the numbers.
But secession will guarantee us our own north president and 100% control of our own resources and budgets. Our biggest strength is our well educated people and abundant natural resources. Within 5 years there will be no matope road on all the current roads that have been neglected for 50 years. Within 20 years, thengere will be where there is currently little thengere somewhere to the south of our new border. Ha ha, actually the whole Malawi is thengere when say south africans or Europeans visit us!!!!
Let us hope the govt will change and unite Malawi as they have been saying. We want actions, not talks.
Well argued. However,a point of correction. Its not true that the North will never produce a president to rule Malawi. The problem in the past elections has been that the region has never produced a candidate worth a state president. This is evidenced on the voting pattern from 1999. Our candidates could not make the grade hence we could not even give them our own vote. We saw how Kamuzu Chibambo,James Nyondo lost and it baffles me when I think of what it will be like when we become our country. Reverend Ngwira has never impressed me as a politician. He is the likes of Harry Mkandawire who would jump into a ruling party’s ship. All this is being championed because they have not been given appointments in government. Our Northern Region would have been a better place to live if it were not for greedy people like Enock Chihana,Rev Ngwira,Khumbo Kachali,Harry Mkandawire and Zikhale Ng’oma. . Just take a quick look at them… You would see they have always wanted to associate themselves with the ruling party. We are all aware of what they are so don’t be cheated. I don’t see ourselves surviving if federalism is adopted. Judge me,but its a fact. Let APM appoint Mzomera today,the noise will go….
Keep it up
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Mr. Rev. where were all this tym?Is it because u r out of gvt? Last 4 months u were in gvt bt u didn’t bring this issue forward now because u r in opposition u want to bring confusion. pliz kutitimbanizga tawamupoto chala .
Asiyeni apite kwao inu! Tiwathamangisa ikangopasa ku azazana pa Poly, chanco, sunny side.
Xenofobia izayenda , we will hunt them one by one akazazane ku chikangawa.
Dea central hospital mzuzu, dea university mzumzu, quota azikapangira konko.
We are just waiting for de time.
Ikakamire waziyambazo uzimaliza.
Thats why Kamuzu anayamba kale kuwathamangisa.
That is why timati a ku South ndinu mbuli because u can’t get the meaning of federalism!Assholes!
Pliz nyasatimes pple sit down and enlighten malawians on what federalism mesns.I know my fellow countrymen are excited with little knowledge what federalism means.Does federalism mean all is yours? Don’t give false hopes to fellow countrymen,let them know the darkside also.
Although I am a tumbuka originally, I don’t support the idea of federalism. Why are people getting very emotional over this issue? Do you really think that Malawi can become a federal state? Let’s stop dreaming people and focus ahead as one Malawi. This will get us nowhere, let’s not behave like barbarians my fellow tumbukas, open your eyes!
No.3 you have the point,if the power is in the provinces it means Northern region will suffer.Let those that are in support of this look at it critically.No sane person in either the southern or central region will be looking at some people getting all the positions in their own territory not even me will allow that to happen.Izi zikatheka nafenso kuno tifuna zipatso za central komanso south tidyelere koyambilira ndife.Those were the days pple used to say south and central have uneducated pple.Tiyeni nazoni bola zikatheka musati tibwelere m’mbuyo.Do I see companies in the North that will accommodate all those pple monopolizing Illovo,Presscane,ESCOM,BWB just to mention a few.
That is precisely my argument. People should not be naive that once we go federal then it will just be like that. The truth about changes is that you gain some and ypu lose some what matters in the end is whether you can be able to live with the losses.
If we were to do an audit of the work force in Malawi, we will all be shocked. Of course our friends from the north will argue that they deserve it. However, people in these regions would not allow that their provinces should be monopolised by people from a particular region.
I know some people think this is scaremongering but the truth is we are starting here a hornets nest. A lot of things can grow wings out of this. That is why I am asking whether the people advocating this and supporting it as well are ready to deal with the consequences.
iF tumbukas were moslems i dont know what would have become of Malawi
So you mean there are no tumbuka moslems….usandisekese ndiye mtundu umenewu ndiwoipa kwambiri eti
Any angwira muli ndi jb simumakamba zoti mukhale panokha kapena poti simuli m’boma?bt mbali ina inu aboma alekeni muwakakamira bwanji?atumbuka,ankhonde anyachusa ankhonde akusowetsani mtendere ?shupit.
Wonder if central south switch to federal how will it look like to devide this piece of meat the president is holding?
@#1. Mumatero mukamadya. This is just common sense, There is sense in what the Northern people are demanding. I will be surprised if the Central Region will not stand up and claim what belongs to them too. Southern Region people are not the only people that are paying taxes. In fact you will find that the southern region is not contributing much to taxes because there is high population yet most of them are not educated enough. This is day right robbery. Let them stand on there own and see how things will be.
My friend the people that pay tax are not the educated but entrepreneurs. South is full of entrepreneurs unlike the northerners who go to school just to be employed. Busy getting PhDs for english, history and geography koma kumuyang’ana ali bii ngati makala, ndevu zili nyakanyaka but has no money.
7.1 Uzazindikila bwino patsogolo. May the Lord keep you alive mpaka uzawone chipambano cha anthu a Ku Northern Region.
which companies??????? most northerners have companies in south, so which southerners have companies that makes southerners rich??????? the same tobbaco tenants that hover around north and cneter??????????????
those people who had taken something from APM advisor they are unlucky,but they will not succeed,anthu akati federal ndi federal basi!mwatikwana,sitingavutike,mitu yanthu yimagwira ntchito,magazi apa 20 sangapite pachabe,mudziwe izi inu a DPP ndi boma lanu,NGWIRA KEEP IT UP,paziwiri izi chimozi chigwira ntchito,sitigonjera ayi,mpoto ndi pakati.mwazolowera kudya chuma chathu.
kodi Muzomera ndi Reverend wa mpingo wanji wofuna kuti ife akumpoto tibvutike? Tisayiwale atumbuka ndi asankho. Sindi a Tumbuka anayamba sankho panthawi ya Chakufwa Chihana pamene anasankha anthu akumpoto (makamaka Atumbuka okhaokha, Atonga ochepa) mchipani chake cha AFORD mu 1994? Si ndi Chakufwa Chihana anali kunena kuti, “ndili ndi ANA 5, kusonyeza maboma 5 panthawiyo. Panopa anayambisa ndi mwana wake Inock Chihana, m’busa wa ndale wa Livingstonia akupitiriraso kusokoneza anthu kuti agawikane monga anagawira m’pingo wa CCAP a Livingstonia. Tsopano iwowonso akufuna dziko liyipe.
We support you Ngwira, you spoke sense, we applauded you. You see, the chiefs are being palm-oiled with Mk50,000 by Vuwa. However, look at how they selected form one candidates to Nkhata-Bay, my home district. No Tongas etc. rubbish government. Let us secede, or form federal system of government so that we have equal share of resources. Kyungu, Themba Chikulamayemba are all traitors and betray ears of the northern region.
Ngwira, my friend, I am from the Central region and I would be happy for you guys to become independent. If there was vote, surely I will vote for yes so that you should be let go. Otherwise all this noise is making the other real Malawians not to concentrate on what is necessary.
Let us explore Federation for a moment. Federation does not mean equal share of the national budget. In fact budget has to be allocated proportionally. In this case the north will get the least amount of funds. Another source of funds is corporate taxes and as we know, the north is least penetrated in terms of private investments. This means fewer taxes for the north.
Assuming that you succeed, the federal governments in the central and south will introduce quota system in the workplace and there is no way you can refuse that because power will be in the Federal governments on how to run the provinces. Who do you think will suffer most?
If you look at this issue carefully, you will realize that there are more losses for the north than what the vocal leaders are suggesting. However, once this thing has gotten its own legs, there is no stopping it. The question is are you ready to deal with the consequences?
more than ready my friend.
A civilized, mature, explicit argument by Mr/Ms Inu. We federalists can not rule out potential challenges that would come long with proportional budget slices – especially for the north; but remember, Malawi lacks management of its wealth and not lack of the wealth. Given its share, the North will get there!
Mr Federalist….I doubt it. There will be turmoil among the northern tribes and the federal state government will come in to establish peace…and that will be the end. I just watching.
There are your fellow northerners who are crying now in their hearts because of what you are advocating.
AInu ndinu a chitsiru. Apakati ndi omwe akupondolezedwa kwambiri kuposaso akumpoto. The central Region contributes lots of revenues in taxes yet most of the money is spend developing the South. Their hardly anyone appointed in the top positions from the Central Region. If anything, we the people of the Central should be demanding independence more than those from the North
No you Idiot called John M, You cant cheat people from the Central. Kamuzu developed the South more than any other President to date. Muluzi followed suit. Only Bingu is the one that really developed the Central. He even moved from Sanjika to Kamuzu Palace as the presidents primary Palace. So no you Idiot, you can not bring the Central region down with your propaganda. If you want to go, just go!!!!!! But dont try to pretend as if you care about the Central region. Kangoyambani country yanu because of your greed. Mxxxxxxiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Ngwira, Keep on fighting for us northerners. We are totally in support of the idea of federation (if Malawi has to maintain unity as a country) or secession (if our southern brothers want to continue sidelining and oppressing the north when it comes to development and when they continue resisting calls for federation). You see, we have lost all our boarding schools to southerners and our children are sent to CDSS when dull southern children fill up our schools in the north and none of our kids go south or center. Crazy. We’ve lost so much more. We just need a big fight, and time is now to rescue the future of our children. DPP and Lomwes and all who support them are total bullshit.
Kod a nyasa times akulipirani a ngwira? Every hour nkhan zizikhala zimenezi, zikubowa heve!!!