Undule says MCP should pay ex-MYPs: ‘They employed them to torture Malawians’

September 5, 2017 Green Muheya -Nyasa Times 59 Comments

Veteran human rights activist Undule Mwakasungula has suggested that former members of the disbanded Malawi Young Pioneers (MYP) should demand payment of compensation from opposition Malawi Congress Party (MCP) which commandeered the para-military wing when it was in power.

Undule: Let MCP pay compensation to ex-MYP

Government, in late 2012 conceded to the ex-MYPs demands of pension, compensation and other payments after over 4 000 members marched to the Office of President and Cabinet.

But Mwakasungura said giving the compensation to ex-MYP will notbe  ideal because they were torturing Malawians in one party dictatorship.

He said they should also not claim compensation from government but instead MCP.

“The ex-MYPs should seek the benefits from those who employed them to torture Malawians.

“If they are to be  paid compensation, it’s taxpayers covering and that includes taxes from the victims paying their perpetrators,” Mwakasungura said.

However, MCP  has said it will be  wrong to deny ex-MYP  “what is dully theirs.”

According to MCP deputy secretary general Eisenhower Mkaka, MYP was governmed by an Act of Parliament as a government entity not a party wing.

Meanwhile, Secretary to Treasury Ben Botolo, said the verification exercise of beneficiaries is ongoing, saying it is a combination of a multi-disciplinary team as there are officers from the Auditor General’s office, people from the Department of Human Resource Management and Development [DHRMD] and others cross-checking the files.

Leader of the ex-MYPs Franco Chilemba said  the ex-MYP officers are demanding K1.6 billion from government to be paid to about 2 765 State employees who were forcibly retired.

“We are seeking K500 000 each as compensation,” he said.

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59 replies on “Undule says MCP should pay ex-MYPs: ‘They employed them to torture Malawians’”

  2. Undule, sudziwa kuti MYP inali ya boma? thats why Nasawa training base is in the hands of govt not MCP. Dausi is quiet because he knows. Iwe ufuna uoneke ngati ndani? Kufuna kusangalatsa boma? Ngati ali matenda osayina akulu ampingo akupempherere bwanji?

  4. Undule. Kikkkkk. What has happened to you? You were a human rights activist but now you have become a spokesman for DPP. It’s unfortunately that the government knows what to do. You have totally failed on this. What is a government?

  5. This is a good topic for this week’s Hot Current. Times TV, please bring in Hon. Dausi and Ex President Muluzi who may have inner knowledge of myp operations. Please Times TV, ensure discussions are held in the language ordinary Malawians can understand

  6. They were not employed to torture people, NO. They only went astray otherwise it was a Government ruling party arm which helped in training many Malawians some of whom can still be used by Government say in Farming for commercial purposes as a country and become an exporting country. The Government should pay them and then use them to revamp agriculture economy within a short time.

  7. Komabe zimene akunena Undule zi ndi zoona. Enafe tinazunzika kwambiri ndi anthu amenewa a MYP. ndipo dzina limeneli tikanva timasanza. Now using our money to pay them for beating and terrorizing us, I can’t accept, over my dead body, they were wicked, merciless, ruthless, unjust and evil. My strong message to government is: please do not use my money (tax) to pay these demons and thugs. I did not know that UNDULE you are such a great thinker.

  9. Mr. Mwakasungura, I did not know that you so stupid and dull. I was actually putting you at high calibre of a person. koma ndalama unabwereranji. Is this indeed Undule thinking like a dog? an imbicile I cant believe this

  11. Forgive Undule. He doesn’t know Malawi despite being born in Malawi and Karonga in particular. This boy and his brothers grew up in Soviet Union and Bulgaria. Amaphunzira ndi kudya za ulere ngati ma refugees. That’s why his brother, the T/A Kyungu would want to have the refugee camp moved from Dowa, Dzaleka to Karonga because he knows better what it takes to be a refugee. They can speak as if they are still refugees in foreign country forgetting that they returned many years ago and Malawi is for all Malawians Mxieeeew, Nyapapi!!

  13. The talk of civilians who are ignorant about security of their own country. Don’t comment much aboma akudziwa chimene akuchita Undule ndiwe chitsiru nthawi yonse unali ku Chanco ija sumadziwa kuti MYP inali yaboma. Ask Gwanda. AlekeBanda, Bakili Muluzi, Edward Bwanali, Ntaba ,Dausi, even Manken Chigawa joined MDF from MYP. The list continues. Educated salvages too many in Malawi.

  14. Undule were u talking this under the influence of alcohol or what? Koma ndie mwathatu mpaka mwafika pamenepa? Atcheya mmene ankati zipani zina zitha ngati makatani bwezi akumatinso anthu ena mutha ngati makatani. Ndaonera mmene wathera Undule.

  15. Undule anali kale inu. This is what happens when one is saturated with handouts, has no time to think. Whose attention would you want to attract. M’malawi wa lero si wa 1993. Watch your mouth.

    1. Very true Mandaz and Malawi walero wadzadza ndi ana amene anabadwa from 1990 to-date nde mukamakamba za MYP iwowo amangokusekani because ndinthano. Amene amatsogolera MYP ambiri pano ali ku chipani chinacho osatinso MCP. The youth of today would like to hear about good policies for running government. In fact the youth of today would like to deal with all thieves in govt & private sectors, all corrupt, nepotic & tribalistic leaders. Don’t waste your time telling the youth of today about MYP & one party system of government because they are the product of political pluralism and its advantages. In fact anthu amene mukuwononga dziko lino mwachuluka ndinu anthu amene munabadwa kalekale ndipo ndinu amene mukuwononga anawa the youth of today. Undule you should be more thankful to the single party system of government because you benefitted from the free University education at Chancellor College. In fact on the contrary, the youth of today are suffering more from the hefty school fees and taxes levied on salaries and businesses of their parents. Stupid man, sycophant, a barren land without plants, flowers & fruits!!!

      1. Wow! what a comment from citizen, the truth must be told, enough of these so called old people, they enjoyed Malawi now they are talking shupiti shupiti because they have messed up our beautiful Country.
        These old people must and must stop cheating us that MYP their duty was torturing people, who are those people? why are they still here? the one who is alive to day and the one is dead, who killed someone here?
        Bakili, Mtaba, Dausi, these are the people who were killing people that is why they are still alive, because those who died can not kill those who are still alive.
        You know why am saying this? these were the commanders. Have you ever heard Tembo saying anything about them? How about them talking about it? it was almost every day, why to do that? because they do this to cover themselves.
        Time up these old gurus must go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, How can they go? By kicking them out through voting into power these brilliant young men and women, we want new Malawi with bright future.
        Young men lets stand and claim our beautiful Mother Malawi.

        God bless Malawi.

  16. WHO DISBANDED MYP? THE MALAWI ARMY OR THE PARLIAMENT? IF IT WAS A GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT , MAY SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE US THE PROCEDURE WHICH WAS USED TO DISBAND SUCH A USEFUL GOVERNMENT AND A HANSARD OR PARLIAMENTARY SITTING OR GOVERNMENT GAZETTE WHICH CONTAINS THIS USEFUL INFORMATION. IF NONE THEN LETS ALL SHUT UP OR LET UNDULE EXERCISE HIS BIRTH RIGHT.

  17. Undule, all along I thought you are wise but today I have discovered how shallow minded you are. I believe that your remarks are just substantiating the rumour that your daily bread is now coming from DPP. You better shut up your mouth and eat the bans in silence.

  19. Paja Undule amadwala, we dont know kuti amadyala chani, but hopefully something to do with mental illness. Thats why he is so much depleted in reasoning….

  20. a mwakasungula akutumani eti mukuzichotsera integrity yanu kutha ma plan eti muzikalima mpunga ndikuona zochita mulibe

  21. Mr. Mwakasungula is totally out of order on this. If MYP was a military wing of the MCP, why is government then occupying most of the structures whc were used by the wing? A gud example is Mapanga MYP base, wch is being used for training prison warders. Govt shud, therefore, return these structures 2 MCP if they feel the wing was entirely belonged 2 MCP.

  22. Undulu mutu wake sukuvuma. Anthu a MYP adalembedwa ntchito ndi BOMA la Malawi. Ena mwa iwo adasayina ma fomu ndipo anali pa payroll ya boma. Boma la Muluzi MCP itachoka mboma idathetsa MYP powalanda zida ndipo ena adaphedwa. apa mutha kundiwuza kuti ofunika kuwachita compensate anthu a MYP ndi ndani? Kodi ndichiyani bwana MWAKASUNGULA? Kutha nzeru, madyodyo kapena maphwevuphwevu?

    1. Undule nzeru zinatha ngati momwe inathela MYP.Staff members of MYP were paid by Govt.and not MCP and those who were retiring before it was disbanded were paid pensions by the Govt.How could Undule today teach us differently on how these people should be paid.??. Sukulu sinamuthandize Undule, he has become too confused these days. I pity him

  24. bravo Undule… this is the way …. all the human rights NGOs. .are quite. .. Thank you for fighting for the victims of MYP atrocities.

  27. Its sad that in my country everything is politics. MYPs were employees of MCP and MCP alone should take responsibility of their welfare. MYPs were not fired rather disbanded after the fall of MCP. if this was a government institution as some would claim, they would still be functional by now. this was a paramilitary wing of MCP. i wouldn’t be surprising if those scorning Undule are MCP sympathizers.

    1. But they were getting Payslips and paid by the Government not MCP. I am not a politician and will remain so but being born on 15 August 1967 I know everything concerning the status of MYP. It was a government which employed, worked and paying them. The problems was it was Misused by Dausi, Mtaba, Muluzi and others. Remember these mentioned people were senior members of MCP not Dr L. Chakwera, Mkaka, Mia,Msowoya, Kabwira…. The list is endless

      1. Which government employed the MYP? Was it not the MCP government? It was the MCP that knew what the MYP was doing and why it was formed. In fact it was formed to kill people that were opposed to the government and conducted activities such as farming and other activities which benefited the MCP top brass. Anything to do with MCP should be directed to MCP its employer and beneficiary. The preceeding government disbanded it after observing its activities and concluded that it was a paramilitary wing of the MCP and it couldn’t be of essential in a multiparty dispensation

      2. I was born seven years after you were born. what I know is that MCP abused government. there was no separation between government and party as such MYP could be drawing salaries from government yet it was established as a paramilitary wing of MCP. Aleke, Bakili and Chakwamba yes were instrumental in establishment of MYP and they may have abused it but look at what happened later…since they were not in agreement to the atrocities committed by this paramilitary grouping they either ended up in jail or sacked from the party. so yes its tru MYP is the sole responsibility of MCP

    2. Abwana ndinu kape kwambiri komaso mwaoneka kuti zinthu simumazitsata. Iweyo ngati umadana ndi MCP zako zomenezo ukakolope nyanja. Anzako a nzeru akudziwa kuti MYP was government and remained as such until when they were disbanded by the same government. The fact that it was one party state then, meant kuti MCP and government were one but when multiparty came in 1993 meant separation of party and government. So these people were employed by government and government alone has an obligation to compensate them. Inuyo mwaona kuti a Boma akana? So who are you to refuse mmalo mwa boma? Mwina kunalibe ku Malawi kuno zimene inkapanga MYP zambiri zabwino. Akakhala ma atrocities anachitika because of the system of government then and Kamuzu already apologized to Malawians so did Dr. Laz Chakwera. If you have mkwiyo with them, hate the whole Malawi and hate the government.

  28. My brother you have goofed, You are completely, entirely wrong and ill-advised about the MYP. It was a government machinery wrongly or good, the government of the day has to pay. I wish you withdrew your remarks. With respect, I rest my case.

  29. The stupid MYP. Day light murderers. If you were born after 1994, please don’t comment here. You don’t know MYP. If Kamuzu and John Tembo and MCP are said to have blood of innocent people in their hands, it was because of the acts of this stupid MYP group. And do you want to compensate them for being told to stop killing people? Mwakasungula is right. He was born way before 1994 remember? MCP is simply a bloody party and it shall remain so forever.

    1. I was born even before 1970. These people were employed by government, received payslips and salary from the government only that they were misused by Kamuzu,Aleke, Chakuamba,Dausi, Mtaba, Muluzi and others who were senior members of the party that time and not Chakwera, Mkaka, Msowoya, Kabwira, Jumbe, Mia …. The list is endless

    2. Inetu I thought apart from Kamuzu and Tembo, you will also mention Muluzi, Dausi, Ntaba as people who have blood in their hands? Onsewa were in one party MCP and helped torture Malawians. Why being selective? Kodi anthu akhale oyera mtima lero chifukwa choti anachoka ku Old MCP?

  30. Undule you must be very stupid!!! Do you know that these were working for government not party ? Undule you’re shall minded one if you don’t have anything to comment is better to zip your mouth

  33. Mwakasungula wazweta mutu! Sometimes its good to keep quite when you know your inner thoughts are in conflict with what you will be forced to say. MYP was governed by an Act of Parliament – meaning they were essentially Civil Servants – how does that become an MCP issue? They may have committed atrocities yes, but that does not mean they were not Civil Servants! In fact, some police officers today are as violent as the MYP (even more) – does that mean they are not civil servants? Those police officers who killed demonstrators on July 20, 2011 – are they not atrocious? In fact, you were part of those demos Undule – wakhwewa vyamba eti?

  34. Eeeeeish! Mr Mwakasungula, bwanji? Komadi ndi kale lija pomwe mukalankhula dziko limadziwa kuti munthu wamkulu walankhula. Very sad that you can stoop so low and get stuck in the mud of retrogression for the sake of your political master who today dangle a rotten carrot before your face.
    I feel sorry for you cos MYP formed the basis for our agricultural blackboard for most of the youths who could otherwise aimlessly hang around the nation unemployed.
    Yes, a small section of MYP was armed but I thought you are old enough to know that the larger section formed the productive part

    1. Mwakasungula is right to a large extent. As a paramilitary wing of MCP, the government then simply took advantage of the one-party state to establish MYP under an Act of Parliament so that tax- payers money could be used to cover for their salaries and other benefits. Who doesn’t know the fact that they worked for & on behalf of MCP! Meanwhile, most victims of atrocities perpetrated by MYP & their cousins, the dreaded youth leaguers, have todate not been compensated!! Does it makes sense to “compensate” the perpetrater & ignore the Victim?!!

  35. Inu Watha uyu munthu uyu. Macadet ndiye adzalipidwe ndi dppyo awa anali aboma mWAKASUNGULA. MYP never tortured anybody. If agriculture has gone down in Malawi until now is because of disbanding of MYP. We had training bases not dpp technical school rubbish but MYP Training base which were Super. Ankaweta ng’ombe amenewa zimene asikalikali adziko ankalandira beef pano zinatha. Mwakasungula kuti Pitala akutenge nanga poti cjisankho cha by-elections komanso 2019 general elections ndiye muzathawatu.

  37. Misala ija yayambiranso kodi? Ndalama zakutherani ndiye mwati mulankhure mbwelera a boma akunikheni kanganyasetu.

  39. O Mwakasungula, I thought you are a wise activist but mmmmm. Do you know that the hard working spirit in Malawi was being championed by MYP? Do you remember what used to happen at Kamuzu Institute for Youth now for Sports? Do you know this poverty young people are suffering today it’s because there is no MYP?
    I feel shy that you are from my home Mwakasungula.

  41. A Mwakasungula kutha kumeneko? hahahahahahahaha! by the way, akazi anu amuna aja muli nawobe kapena munawaleka?
    These people were working with the Government and ntchito yao anawachotsa ndi Bwana Bakili Muluzi, akuyenela kuwalipila ndi ndani? Bwanji mwakhwimatu, 3yrs zapitazi mukanalankhula umu ndalankhuliramutu inu hahahahahahahahaha!! koma nthawi imapitadi eti? kikkkkkkkkkkk Mwakasungula ayayayaya koma ndaseka mwanva! Basi kutha kwake kuzikhala kumeneku?

    1. Did Mcp disbanded the MYP? Undule amene anonga katundu wa MYP ndi ndani? ukayankha zimenezi ndiye coment yako tiitsatira bwino bwino.

      1. to answer your question yes!! MCP disbanded MYP. Most of you are forgetting that operation bwezani took place during MCP rule.

    2. Zoona zimene Mwakasungula akulondola anthu sanali a boma koma a chipani cha Congress. Iwowa sakuyenera kulandandira ku boma koma ku chipaniko. Anthuwa anatinzunza kwambiri ndipo akuyenera kulandira dipo lao pa zimene amachita. Mwakasungula sikutinso maluzi ai koma akulankhula chilungamo chenicheni. Amamanga nyakukula anthu awa ndipo by the way ndalama zamakadi zija amadulitsa m’zimayi ali ndi mimba zilikuti? Ndalama zimene zija ndi zimene akuyenera kuwapatsa. Over my dead body K500,000 kwacha ya chiyani? Kodi kuli pezelera bomali bwanji? Bwanji osapanga demand nthawi ya a Tcheyayo kukubvutitsa pano. A chakulukungwa akafunse ababa a Tembo ndi amene angawapatse ndalama zimenezi. Ine sindikuona kuti Mwakasungula akulakwitsa pamenepa ai, anthu awa asatisokoserere ai.

      1. Kikikkkkk zako izo. umangova za ma card eti? ndipo zinkabebatu nthawi imeneyo school tikuphunzira polemba pa masilet hahahahahahaahahaha!!

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