TB Joshua’s credibility on the line over Covid-19 prophecy: ‘He is legal con artist’

March 27, 2020 Chipambano Mbewe -Nyasa Times 81 Comments

Prophet TB Joshua of Nigeria is under spotlight over his controversial prophecy that the novel coronavirus could be coming to an end this Friday March 27th Read, yet no vaccine or cure is in sight.

Prophet TB Joshua: sceptics point out that he is often wrong.

TB Joshua, leader of the Synagogue Church of all Nations, told congregants on March 15 that the coronavirus, also known as Covid-19 that: “ I came out at the beginning of this year saying last year will end in March and the year will continue to be very fearful till this month [March].

“This month, 27th, it will be over. By the end of this month, whether we like it or not – no matter the medicine they might have produced to cure whatever, it will go the way it came. If it is not a medicine that brought this to the world, medicine cannot take it out. It will go the way it came.”

Ironically, the controversial Nigerian televangelist whose full name is Temitope Balogun Joshua has cancelled Sunday service at his church due to the coronavirus threat, bringing Into question the authenticity of his prophecies.

As the virus continues to ravage different parts of the world and with a third of countries including his country, Nigeria, going on complete lock-down to help curtail  the spread of the outbreak,

The Nigerian religious leader enjoys a cult following around the world and many of his followers have no reason to doubt his claim, albeit an unlikely one.

Numerous people questioned his prophetic ability based on his church building that collapsed without warning and others even labelled him a con artist.

One observer Kelvin Lupiya cited previous examples of fail prophesies: “He couldn’t foresee when would the church collapse and he lied by saying Hillary Clinton will be the President of United States yet Trump won and then now he expects us to take him serious! This guy must stop disrespecting like this.”

Another Norman Phiri said: “TB Joshua is a legal corn artist.”

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81 replies on “TB Joshua’s credibility on the line over Covid-19 prophecy: ‘He is legal con artist’”

  1. People,

    Corona virus first deaths were not in WUHAN, can you please research well then combine the truth with the Prophet’s message, you then will realize we are in big trouble about prophesies… ndangodusa

  2. My conclusion from the information on the Coronavirus issue from the world is that there is no evidence that those said to be new cases of coronavirus are really new cases. The only evidence to show that those are really new cases is through providing a proof that the person was free from coronavirus and now is effected with coronavirus. Hospitals treat and register cases as new when they come into their place and this doesnt matter whether the person got sick some months ago. If the person is his first time to go there, the hospital takes that as new case.
    I believe that all these so called new cases are not new but those people who were effected some time back and they have been tested now. They are new to the health facility but not newly effected unless you provide me with the evidence. All those places where they dont have coronavirus I dont believe they will have the coronavirus as what remained is what is in the body of the people but cannot be transmitted to another person.

    When there is fire in the building, fire instructions says you you have to extinguish it from the base and if you do that you have conquered the fire. Though smoke still affects people and that many do die with the smoke, the fire is already extinguished. Smoke kills people too and also causes the fire alarm to ring.
    My understanding of the prophecy, he spoke on the problem and not on the effect of the problem. The problem I believe has been solved and what remains is its effect which we are seeing now.

    Coronavirus ended and what has remained is nothing but just smoke

    1. I’m afraid you then have not really looked at how the virus affects the human organism.
      After being infected it takes 2-14 days to develop symptoms, this is individual person from person. Some will have symptoms so mild they will never visit a hospital at all. Others will have more severe symptoms, visit a doctor, and only when doctors administer a test that proves the virus is in their body (by checking a sample from their throat or even lungs), then they declare that person as being a verified case of coronavirus.
      So no, it is not that someone just says so, the cases reported are cases verified, where the virus has been actually detected in their bodies.

      Also the body will respond with the immune system to get rid of the virus, and in a healthy person that does not get other complications like pneumonia, then within 3-4 weeks, the virus will be destroyed by the person’s own immune system.

      So again, no, it is not possible that someone had the virus say 3 months ago, and only now developed symptoms and got tested.

      All the new cases that are showing up around the world, are cases that have new symptoms and are getting tested because of those new symptoms. And the fact they have symptoms now means they must have been infected within the last 2-14 days.

      In the coming weeks number of cases in the whole world will keep getting higher, and if we’re lucky, it will start dropping by June this year.

      1. I believe you are agreeing with me that from 27th March, 2020 there has not been new transmission of the virus and that what we are seeing and hearing happened before 27th of March, 2020. According to what you have said the virus can stay in the body for 3-4 weeks and can show within the next 2 to 14 days meaning that we are yet to get a confirmation of the new virus after 27th March, 2020. If we have increase of the cases after the days you have mentioned then that will reveal that there have been new cases after 27th March, 2020. I have used your information to confirm what I said earlier that there are no really new cases.

        1. Well, I will agree with you, with the delay we are talking about, if suddenly there were no new cases after 2 weeks from 27th March in the world, then yes, we could conclude that somehow around 27th march the spread has stopped. So in other words, I am willing to give you the two extra weeks that you want to provide for TBJ to still have a chance to be correct.

          However, the likelyhood of that happening, given how the spread is still happening, has a basically zero probability. But giving the benefit of the doubt, I am willing to say, if on 10th april 2020 all new cases stop, then I will revert, apologize and admit TBJ was right.

          Now if after 10th April 2020 there are still more cases happening, will you be willing to admit TBJ was either mistaken or lied about 27th march 2020 being the end of coronavirus? Or will you look for another way to excuse it?

          Based on scientific, medical and epidemiological data, this virus is going to be spreading for the next 2-3 months, even though eventually slowing down. But there is no evidence at all that this is already over, and to think it is would be extremely dangerous right now.

          Finally, you have used my information to give a possible excuse, however you have not “confirmed” as you say. We can not say it is confirmed until the cases actually do stop – and if that is later than 10th april 2020, it means we have confirmed TBJ was wrong. Would you agree with me on that?

      1. It’s a long statement that’s based on verifiable facts. You can check all of what I said with any medical authorities in the world, either World Health Organisation, or any medical/pandemic response organisations in the countries already severely affected.

        On the other hand you have not provided any data, any facts, you just accused me of falsehood without proving any evidence whatsoever.
        Any person reading this will know, that if one person is providing real data that have evidence, and the other is just accusing the other of lies without any grounds to it, that it is not the person with the data who is false. You are the one here who is being dishonest here and just spouting hatred.

        Try again, I am sure you are better than this.

    1. How can we tell for certain if he was really a true servant of god?

      And more importantly what kind of evidence would you think could prove if he was not a servant of god?

        1. I agree with you that TBJ is likely a liar, or in the least a man mistaken about what he gets from god.
          However the question remains, whether TBJ or any other man calling himself prophet.

          Whenever ANY man calls himself a prophet, how can we tell with certainty, if he really is getting messages from god, or if he is making it up, or being mistaken?
          – A true prophet will say he is a prophet.
          – A man who thinks he is a prophet, but is mistaken, will also say he is a prophet.
          – A liar who know he is not a prophet, will also say he is a prophet.

          So how can we ever tell who is the real deal?

          1. Even so before the outbreak of this disease, why there was no prophecy warning people about this?so now it is claimed as it will pass or not.

    3. You are right dear I also agree with you. Just stop arguing or try to prove the truth to those who do not see or understand, but just pray for them.

    1. If we can be sure someone is a prophet, then this verse would be reasonable to consider.
      So we need to ask, how do we tell a real prophet from one that just pretends to be a prophet and manages to trick a large number of people?

      1. Dear Joe,
        TB JOSHUA is casting out demons – this he does in the Name of Jesus not by his own name but in the Name above all Names.The Devil won’t cast out his own demons. TB Joshua is most definitely not a false profit – Remember the Devil targets God’s children for the work they do for God, they also hated Jesus before us. The more the challenges on TB Joshua the more clarity around the truth that he is the devils target.

        1. I have seen the videos he posts about casting the demons out.. and the one thing I get from it is, most of these people are actors, and very bad ones. He had failed prophecies in the past, he is said to have performed miracle healings, but actually none of these can be proven. All the claimed ones have no medical history to prove it was real. Then you have stories of people who came to his church with cancer. His subordinates kept the cancer patient away from the service in some kind of “waiting room” for weeks, because they knew he cannot do anything about it. He does not want people he cannot seemingly cure in front of his congregation, because people might actually realize, he is a fraud.

          But personal opinions aside, look at my original question again. Forget we’re talking about TBJ, and ask the question generally.
          If you have any man claiming to be a prophet – what criteria do you use to confirm whether he really is a prophet?
          What confirms a real prophet, and also, what would disconfirm a prophet, what would prove a prophet is actually false?

          If you know how to find this out, then you can start applying on the ones you know.. TBJ, Bushiri, or any other prophet. But be very careful so you do not set your criteria in such a way, that they cannot be failed. If the bar to pass is too low, then you will with certainty be believing prophets that are fake, because you haven’t verified them enough.

          For me? Let’s say a prophet, a faith healer, gets a man who has an amputated leg. He comes in, his leg is completely missing. Then the prophet performs a miracle healing, and the whole leg grows back, right there, in seconds on stage. Now that would be a convincing piece of evidence to at least consider there is something to what they are saying.
          However, none of the prophets or faith healers have ever managed to do that. They all claim they did, but nobody has ever provided any credible evidence, no medical history, no proper video that would clearly show it happening.
          Once someone does that, I will say ok, you’ve got something real here.
          Until then, it is better to stay skeptical and avoid the risk of following people who could be lying to you for their own personal gain.

        2. Did i hear you right?… the work they do for God?, so God wants us to do his work? is this practical, which work? so God is this incapable of doing things and delegates people? come on! say things that makes sense to us, so you think God can’t fight Satan, or how the Hell he wants us to do his Job? is there really war? is life war? or your mind is war? are you so clouded with fear? is Casting out demons a sign of a true prophet? so all those who tell the future are prophets?

        1. I agree, that verse says, if a prophet brings a prophecy that does not come true, that proves he is not a real prophet, or that he cannot tell a message from god compared to his own ideas in his head. And therefore not a person anyone should follow or listen to.

          So we know how to tell a false prophet now, great.

          What we still don’t have is a way to tell a true prophet? Because I could come up with something on my own, that actually does come true, and yet, it would not be a prophecy from god – I could just get my prediction right by accident. Let’s say I am doing a coin toss. I predict I will toss a coin 3 times and it will always come up as Heads.. Then if I do toss the coin, and it does come up 3 times as heads, does that make me a prophet who got it from god? No of course not, it just means I said something that was possible to happen and by accident it did. But it says nothing about whether I am a prophet or if I am getting my predictions from god, or just being lucky by chance.

          So the question is still here, how can we tell when someone is a real prophet? 🙂

    2. Joe,

      If the mind is bent on something… it’s hard to tell it otherwise until that mind tells itself to change its logic… logic at some point mind can only manage these mundane activities, that’s when individualism steps in (spirituality), if people made their minds to live a life that others lived more than two thousand years ago and are well with it, then let them.

      My point is to agree with you on the questions you have raised, they seem practically beautiful to me… as we all know that there is always a cause and an effect, we might fast forward to looking at them, what causes the effects? and how do you judge them?

      In the old Testament when when Israel split between Israel and Juda… the twelve tribes split 10 for Israel 2 for Juda… but they were both Abrahamic faithfuls,,, prophets kept arising even before the split, why were some called major prophets and some minor prophets? only God knows why? is is it man’s mind making it up?… why would the message from God be classified as important or less important… okay that aside, when Juda and Irael Split, any prophet from Juda was labelled FALSE, read well that’s where false prophets came into being.

      The other thing to consider is “why are we told that even the devil is able to use Gods words and make things happen” because of this, how can you really indeed tell this is a true prophet? since the devil in the scriptures is able to challenge God and make things equal to what God can do?

      i think we are so much into believing God has special people and he loves us all, this alone does not make since. for those who bileive a man of God a man of God, then who are you really, would God create you and love you less than others?… i thought he loves every one equal?

  6. But where it started the virus is gone. In Wuhan shops and life is back to normal by 27th.

    1. I am afraid you are not correct. Shops are opening, because they got the situation somewhat under control, and they now also need to get people to function again in the city.
      But the virus is most certainly not gone, there are still active cases. Most people however have gotten better, because they have passed the time for the virus to be dealt with by their own immune systems – Wuhan had the virus since January, so they are 2 months ahead of everyone else. Still happening though, and people still can get infected. So don’t just close your eyes to information you don’t want to see because it disagrees what your favourite pastor said. He is not god, he is only a man, and a man can be wrong, and a man can lie.

      When any man ever says they have message from any god, always, ALWAYS check what they say against evidence, otherwise you are most likely going to be taken advantage of.

  7. Ribbon, the word ‘Error’ means ‘Mistake.’ Rather, you could have used ‘Era’ which is a period of time in history!

  8. They say don’t follow a person but if the person talks of the word of God just take that. Saying that this man is an authentic prophet or not is not for us to judge but God alone. Let’s just pray that this virus dies down soon.

    1. The Bible also says that we need to test every spirit weither it’s from God or not. Logically testing something is not bad you just to make sure it right

        1. You’re Definitely right he is a corn artist. These African prophets are only waiting for the covid19 to end so they can start healing people. This the time to demonstrate God power

    3. if god is out there, he may judge him ultimately after his death. However while this person is in our world, we have to ensure he does not endanger other people by spreading false information, because he then inflicts evil upon the world. and whether god will judge him or not after he dies, we have an obligation to stop anyone from doing evil, as much as we can. that’s how we build a better world.

      if you just turn a blind eye to every scam artist and every conman, it is only going to get worse.
      especially when there are ways to check facts, and confirm when someone is lying.

      1. Joe,

        You have to go inwards to be able to come out with the truth. God is truth, his word stands and that’s the truth. In order to know the difference between truth from lies, you only have good /light or evil/dark to choose from, and identify for your self what is good work apart from bad work. Understanding the only way you will ever have the truth is when you go in to come out. If the Holy spirit is within you, the truth will be within you already, therefor you will recognize the work of good (only God is good) in comparison with the work of the darkness (only the devil is bad). Once you invite the Holy Spirit to fill you, you will be reborn and you will always be able to tap into the truth inwards that’s why TB Joshua don’t let evil detract him because evil is cunning and deceives you to believe the work of God is actually bad. If the truth are inside of you, your mouth will only be able to bring truth out of it. Go in first to be able to come out with the truth. Go in to come out. I know a brother at work for Christ when I see one. I know when darkness is at it again and to send such dark intentions to the feet of Jesus so He will decide what will happen to darkness.

        Joe, I feel you need to spend time with truth. I feel you need to get familiar with what truth looks like. Before Jesus took His last breath, He said it is done. What was done? He rescued all sinners from eternal death and a sinner needs to agree that they are a sinner and then they accept Jesus as their saviour. None of us humans would have ever earn eternal life without Him. Once you except you are a sinner like all the people that was ever born and stil going to be born, only then the Holy spirit will come to you. God also said we must be prepared to leave this world as it is going to be handed over to the Devil for a 1000 years and all who loves this world will perish. So now that you know the truth, God is working through TB Joshua to prepare all His Children to leave this world. Are you coming with?

        1. Mel I appreciate your response, it is good to have someone reply with a properly thought out thinking.

          I think the difference we have here is how we define truth.
          You seem to be convinced that truth is something you find internally. So you can have a truth in your mind, and somehow that will assure you it is true.

          I don’t think I can agree with that, because the human mind is easily fooled. And the problem here is – when someone is wrong, but they don’t know they are wrong, they also think they have the truth. Being wrong feels exactly as being right, until you face external verification that can prove whether your assumptions are true or not. If they are, external verification will prove them true. If they are not, you will find out you are wrong, and you can improve your views to be in line with reality.

          Truth to me is what we can verify against reality outside of our own thinking. For example I can in my mind find a truth that I’m a millionaire, I could feel it in my bones and be absolutely convinced it is true. But then I have to check my bank account and so I figure out, I was wrong, and accept the reality.
          However, if there was no way to check my bank account, I could keep believing I am a millionaire, but I would be wrong, without ever finding that out.

          This is the problem with the so called prophets. They set up the system in such a way that they can never be checked against actual facts and reality – and if you can’t check something, you can never find out if they were wrong.

          TBJ here made a mistake when he gave a specific prophecy for March 27, which has clearly failed, there are still more and more cases in the world every day. So we have a way to verify his prophecy against the facts of reality, and that shows TBJ definitely did not prophesise correctly – so he either lied, or he told what he believed but was mistaken.

          Finally, as for preparing for the end of the world, I do not follow that. People have been saying the world is going to end in EVERY generation throughout history. And EVERY time they did, they were wrong. So the likelyhood of the endtimes prophecy being right at any time, is extremely low.
          I’d rather live my life in this world to make it a better place for everyone, as much as I can, while I am here. Whatever happens after, I will deal with after. We know we have maybe 80 years in this world, and I am not ready to waste them preparing for apocalypse that may never come. Life is for us to be lived, to love, to find happiness. Not to live in fear.

  10. Let God be true all men liars. Prophet TBJoshua delivered the message from God, that is his role now its up to the Almighty Father to perform it. We believe it is done. Amen those who donot believe cannot be forced to but soner or later they will testify the goodness of God.

        3. You are too brainwashed. You should watch the news sometimes and think with your brain. This pandemic is far from over even in China. Reopening Wihan does not mean there is ZERO case in Wuhan

    3. Mkango, God bless you,the prophet is a messager o the Almighty. It’s not his work to follow the word to accommoplish it, God will.

    4. The prophecy did not pass. Cases are getting worse over the world. China is better because it started earlier and they implemented restrictions and quarantines earlier than anyone else in the world. But they still have active cases, still have quarantines, and they are still getting new cases.

      So there are three options:
      1) God lied to TB Joshua about coronavirus ending. If this is the case, we should not believe any so called prophecies or prophets, because we cannot know whether the message they supposedly received was the truth, or a lie from god.

      2) TB Joshua came up with the idea about coronavirus ending in his own head, without any message from god, but he believed it was from god – but he was mistaken, and it was NOT from god. If that is the case, he clearly cannot tell what message is from god and what is from his own head. Therefore, we should not believe ANY prophecies he brings up, because we cannot know whether they are from god, or just a figment of TB Joshua’s mind that is mistaken.

      3) TB Joshua made the whole thing up and willingly lied to all the people. Again in this case, we should not believe anything else he says, if he is willing to lie like that.

      So, which one of the options do you think it was?

        1. but he already failed the prophecy. he said coronavirus would be gone by 27th march, 2020. Now it’s the 30th, and the number of cases worldwide is getting bigger every day. only countries that had it early, have already implemented measures that slow the spread and getting it under control – these being china, taiwan, singapore, korea.
          others grow exponentially every day.

          so no, his prophecy will not come to pass, because it has already failed, due to the date given.
          so option 4 is no longer possible, if you really want to seek the truth and not just ignore parts you don’t like hearing. Stick to the truth. If god is always true, then you must know this so called “prophecy” was not from god. And therefore it shows TBJ is not to be trusted.

    6. God is the God of confusion nor does he contradicts himself. When The process came to Mary that she will conceive and have a baby boy to called Jesus. It’s came to pass as it was said we didn’t see Mary a baby girl but a baby boy. Therefore why does the God of TB Joshua is so confusing??? He said convid19 will be over on 27 March 2020 but nothing has changed. The Bible God is not a human that he can lie. So can God lie?

      1. Well the bible actually contradicts itself on this topic.
        – Genesis 11:7-9 tells the story how god created confusion in the people by messing up their languages when they were trying to build the tower of Babel. So yes, in this case he is the author of confusion.
        – 1 Corinthians 1:27 – “But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty” …. again, here it shows god creates confusion

        But then you have the most commonly included verse of 1 Corinthians 14:33: “For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.”
        This one on the other hand says he is not, so there is a clear contradiction in the bible. That’s also why people can interpret it any way they want, according to whatever situation they apply it to.

        Unfortunately, if the book says things both ways, that he both IS and IS NOT the author of confusion, it means we cannot use this piece of information to tell it either way. (but that ultimately means we can be confused by the books contradiction itself, and if the book is from god, then god is the author of confusion afterall)

        so yes.. spin it any way you like, there is no certain answer on this topic – it means god possibly could be author of confusion and therefore send a false prophecy to someone.
        But it is probably more likely that the so called prophets did not get anything from god in the first place and just made it up…

        1. Have you not heard Bible contradiction is the works of Satan and invaders. In Huhan all reports confirm the main corona virus is finished for what TB Joshua said there will be rain to wash its strength and finish the virus. Perhaps people prayed to call TB Joshua a liar and not seek Jesus and question your own intelligence. e.g. All specialist and research says the virus is not air born. It can only be air born within the space of those who caught it, hence family members are mostly catching it. So if no other part of China have got it like Italy, Spain, USA, Iran, South Korea, could these virus not have been transported by China to create biological warfare against USA. Were most people returning from Wuhan out of New York from USA that says virus is not air born. So that those virus will be fully effective until the date of 27 March, and will cause most damage as returning ISIS terrorist. So everything cannot be explained in one revelation.

        2. Talk of contradictions… and confusions and we have too many in that book, Joe this space won’t be enough to explain it all… you will be called names and all that, it’s amazing how people don’t read to understand, i also know that to know, you must invest time… so instead of knowing they choose to listen to others more than themselves, that’s where Men of God came from, and crippled the earth, that’s why all those who claim to be God’s are doing the grossest things to others… they realize they are just men… with feelings, emotions, happiness, anger.

  11. Nanga bwanji simunalembeko zoti ananena kuti kugwa Mvula ndipo yagwadi Mvula ku China.. pano Ku China kulibe Case iliyonse ya Coronavirus yomwe yapezeka lero kwaife okhulupilira tikuti Yahwe wayankha ndipo Coronavirus atha ndinthu.. inu onyoza azitumiki inu bakhalani ndikunyoza kwanuko koma Chipulumutso chikafika tonse tipulumuka…

  13. When someone tells/lies to you about God or Jesus Christ test his spirit 1John4:1 and Acts 17:11. The Book of Matt chapter 24 writes a lot about false prophets. TBJ ticks all the boxes. Woe to those who follow him!!! . I don;t under stand why million blind followers of TB Joshua don’t see he is a false prophet. Even if his prophecy came to be true he is still a false prophet. Wonders/miracles are also qualifications for false prophecy. Read the scriptures you blind followers

    1. Ndiye true prophet ndi uti? You just quash things without offering any alternative or solution – nde anthu azilowera kuti?

      2. The kingdom of God is within you….. sunamvepo? ngati unamvapo why take the kindom to someone else’s kingdom, pretending there is none in you…

    2. Who are you to judge my friend. U have outlined the verses meaning you know the bible well. So stop judging.

    1. Just don’t joke with the man of God. Respect him .play with your politics but not God’s plan please

  15. T.B.Joshua is a real man of God. Do you follow what is now transpiring in China? What did he say about China in his prophecy? T.B. Joshua prophesied about the crisis and that churches will be closed and people will be praying with him through Emmanuel Tv. Follow track record about T.B. Joshua and you will believe that he is really a man of God..

    1. Yes the cases are going up and China is starting to ban contact with the rest of the world. As of today 500 cases.

  16. He said it will end in Wuhan where it started then we will hear some stories that it is in other parts of the world, but that will be the end of it. So check out if there still patients in Wuhan

    2. Corona did not originate in Wuhan… so pop off and stop the nosence, as us we will tell you where the first deaths were recorded about corona..

    1. so how about now? 3 days later, number of cases in the world increasing every day faster and faster…
      can you now finally accept the fact that he was either mistaken or lied on purpose?

  19. Faith is in an individual. Don’t go by my faith, likewise I will not go by your faith; however, we may go by same faith coincidentally.

    1. Why you keep following him? Just keep your mouth shut up. You dont know what you are talking about? Dont you have some things to write? Prophet talks to his people not you of the world.

      1. Perfect👏
        HIS PEOPLE NOT THE WORLD…
        I think most people do not understand the prophecy of the prophet.

        Spiritual things are foolish to the carnal man.

        1. if most people cannot understand a prophecy, then what good is the prophecy in the first place?
          in such case, a prophecy would be useless.

          the only prophecy that is useful to anyone, is a prophecy that everyone can understand clearly and correctly so they can prepare for what’s to come.

          anything unclear, uncertain, hard to understand, or even anything vague and not specific, is either not a prophecy, or a prophecy that’s worthless.

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