Chilima hits international media with powerful interview in Scotsman newspaper
Malawi’s vice-president Saulos Chilima has hit the international media headlines with a powerful interview with the UK’s Scotsman newspaper.

In the interview, journalist Susan Dalgety purposely brings in the US former vice president Joe Biden whom he said his political career is coming to an end whilst that of Chilima is just starting.
Dalgety starts her story in a very dramatic but compelling forceful way.
“The dramatically reinstated Vice-President of Malawi, Saulos Chilima,…(says) that the government should borrow to invest in the country, one of the poorest in the world,” that’s how she starts.
Then temporarily moves to the US then back to Malawi.
“This week has been a tale of two vice-presidents. America’s Uncle Joe, Obama’s right-hand man, Joe Biden, former Vice-President of the world’s richest country, stumbled from New Hampshire to South Carolina in search of the African American votes that may yet save his presidential ambitions,” she says.
But Dalgety says Biden looks a broken man, his ebullient personality dampened by the rise of noisy left-winger Bernie Sanders and the more moderate, if slightly duller, Pete Buttigieg. Vice President Biden’s retirement from the public stage may be only a few weeks away.
Saulos Chilima, on the other hand, the journalist says, is a vice-president with a future.
First elected as Malawi’s number two in 2014, the former telecoms chief executive failed in his bid to become his country’s youngest president last year. His former party boss, Peter Mutharika, won a second term.
She goes on, saying some said his political career had ended before he reached 50. “He is going back to the corporate world,” they whispered. But February 3 2020, Malawi’s constitutional court ruled the 2019 presidential election null and void, called for a new poll by 2 July, and in a move that surprised everyone, including Chilima, re-instated the 2014 presidential team until the new election.
‘Call to national duty’
Dressed in casual but smart sports gear, sitting behind the desk of his private office in one of Lilongwe’s leafier suburbs, Vice President Saulos Chilima looks more like a corporate boss working from home than a senior African leader.
Apart from the very friendly soldier on guard at the entrance to his home, there is no pomp or ceremony surrounding him. No entourage. No hangers-on. Just a few builders working on his home and that smiling soldier. “I’ll be with you in a moment,” he said, “Please sit,” he added, as he finished some paperwork.
A few minutes later he turned his full attention to me, and in perfect English, invited me to ask my questions. “We have 30 minutes,” he added, in a very business-like manner.
I glanced at my list. “Why did you give up a successful career as chief executive of Airtel to become a politician,” I asked, too quickly.
He relaxed. Then laughed. “I will repeat what I said before, it was a call to national duty. People told me that I had the potential to contribute to the greater good, so I discussed it with my family, with other people.
“Some told me politics was difficult, but I opted to set aside my private sector career to respond to the call, to see if my expertise, the knowledge that I had acquired over many years, could be used to benefit many more people than just myself.”
Marathon runner
His CV is a glittering testament to a successful career in the private sector. An economist by trade, with a PhD in knowledge management, he worked for Unilever and Coca-Cola before joining Airtel Malawi, where he rose to chief executive. During his time in charge, the company grew from 375,000 customers in 2006 to 2.8 million by 2012.
And his sports gear is not for show. He runs marathons, is a regular gym-goer, and at 47, still plays basketball. “Our bodies are the best God-given gifts. These we must look after and invest in accordingly,” he said in a recent interview.
A devout Catholic, father of two children, Sean and Elizabeth, his wife Mary is regarded as a huge political asset. “She is full of life, very bright,” says one associate. “She will make a great first lady,” says another.

But first Chilima has to be elected President. He missed his first chance last year, when he came third with 20 per cent of the national vote. Lazarus Chakwera, leader of the MCP, polled 35 per cent and Chilima’s old boss scraped in with 38 per cent.
He won’t be drawn if he will stand in the new presidential elections in a few months’ time.
He smiled. “We will see, there are discussions happening,” he says, enigmatically, alluding to talks between his UTM party and other opposition groups.
Good governance
The numbers may look stacked against him, but the court’s ruling that the new election must be run on a 50 per cent plus one basis gives him a chance of victory. And what if he did become leader of one of the world’s poorest countries?
“I wish we had the luxury of saying this is priority number one, number two, number three. Unfortunately, we don’t.
“Food security is an issue. Health is an issue. Unemployment. Education. Security. Gender is an issue.
“They need to be dealt with in tandem. But if we say, let’s try and do some prioritisation, we need to deal with food security once and for all. We must make our agriculture sector work properly.
“We also need to do away with avoidable diseases, through better health and education.
“Then you would begin to look at young people, the empowerment of women. We must develop our human capital.
“And for all of this to work, you must have good governance as the centre-piece. We need to get rid of fraud and corruption. The judgement last week showed the rule of law works here.”
‘Three meals a day’
The successful corporate boss who cites Coca-Cola’s business model as an inspiration is also a classic Keynesian. At times of trouble – and Malawi’s economy is most certainly suffering – Chilima believes the government should borrow to invest in the country’s future.
His party’s 2019 manifesto promised “one million jobs in one year”, a pledge that many ridiculed, not least the BBC’s Zeinab Badawi during a recent HARDtalk interview.
But Chilima is unabashed. “Of course, it can be done, it is doable,” he told me.
“We have to find a way of jump-starting the economy. One way is a loan fund for the people who already have business. Invest there, so their businesses will grow, and they employ more people. Invest in the village banks, the co-operatives where people lend to each other to support economic activity.
“Invest in infrastructure, and the construction sector absorbs a lot of people immediately. They need suppliers, and they need to eat. The chain continues. We have a simple promise,” he says, drawing the interview to a close, 13 minutes after my allotted half hour.
“We want a happy nation, to be a middle-income economy where people enjoy three meals a day,” he says, walking me back to the gate. “And we can do it.”
Vice President Biden’s political career may be drawing to a close in the southern states of America, but here, in the heart of southern Africa, it feels as if Vice President Chilima’s is just about to take off.
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Time for the youths to lead Malawi. They have their future and country’s interest at heart. Old people have had their chances but they have failed the nation miserably through corruption, corruption and corruption.
people just hate sualos for no apparent reason. shame
Lmc has not indicated that he is going to serve for one term, but mcp constitution demands that, and this is his last term. As such he is running against time. If he fail during the rerun l am sure he will manipulate his boot lickers for extension of his stay as mcp president, so he can run for the third time.
Amalawi mumandimvetsa chisoni bwanj, the is even more corrupt than his father Petulo. Basi Zeze kumakupusitsani ndi sweet talk yake. Mudzalira kuposa mmene mulilira ndi Petulo.
Chilima the only leader who will put Malawians first.
People are crazy sometimes, Mutharika instead of going to the Old Agw Home & retire there some people think he can be a leader craziness.
Chilima the future of Malawi
Bulutu uyu. He failed to answer questions on BBC Hard Talk. By the way, how many MPs does he have? 4 ONLY. But he is so loud-mouthed and egoistic.
some pple like president only not mp`s kma are you amalawian???
Name anyone who is better than him to bring us back from this hole 🥴
Attention seeker. You will become a leader through back doors, better start a band, I thought the wife sings?
Chilima, clearly a future leader for Malawi. Who in their right mind would vote for an old senile “low energy” APM over him?
47 years old? Mukukalambatu msanga. Bwanji?
Kukonda kukwata kwambiri ndi kumwa vinyo mkulu ameneyu that’s why….
i want to join
Chilima’s future is rest assured in partnering with Chakwera, and the mighty MCP.
Mr Mia has already indicated that he is prepared to let Chilima be a running mate to Chakwera. Our constitution allows for the position of a second Vice President and Mia will be the second Vice President once the Chakwera and Chilima partnership wins the elections.
And Chakwera has also already indicated that he is prepared to do only one term and let Chilima take the presidency in the second term……this a very good arrangement that should be embraced by all peace loving and development oriented Malawians.
i dont see anything impressive in this hip of garbage. These reporters dont ask him the right questions that will make him stammer. Next time you have an interview with this dude ask him the following questions:
1. You always say DPP government is corrupt, why then do you work with it. You can not isolate yourself from these corrupt activities because government is a collective responsibility.
2. Did you ask the court to reinstate you in your petetion or you had to bribe your way to the judges so that they should reistate you.
3. The MCP has always believed that you are the one who stole the vote from them and again you used them in the court battles so that you get reinstated, do you think MCP can trust you to work with them.
I agree. Probably because most journalists are challenged in critical thinking. It is a reflection of the training they receive.
I have read through the whole article very carefully but I have not found anything powerful. What kind of reporting is this? All I see is cursing ourselves as “one of the poorest countries in the world”. Why do reporters like this description which pleases western media?
Eee zoona ungopita ukathandizeso dpp milandu ili ku Supreme khoti
Kikikikiki zeze
This is the same as lifting a dog ups tree branch and exciting it to walk down (kukweza galu mtengo). Zeze Arafat is not a politician of any substance. He miserably flopped in a hard talk with Zaonab Badawi of BBC. His party only has 4 stupid MPs out of 193 August House. He is nobody. Just an empty tin with a handful paid up mercenaries on social media and on the streets.
it’s a shame that those that vote are the villagers and in the majority.
THis is the PRESIDENT OF MALAWI!
The biggest problem with us Malawians is that, we believe in hearing fake news then we misinterpret,and mislead people without proof or actual evidence,if I had to ask, what impression did he make on this interview, did you hear the interview yourself or a third party told you? If you had to hear on BBC had talk,that should have given you, some knowledge about how Chilima answers, so an impressive to Malawi and the world at large. So us Malawians, most of us have radios, TV sets e.g.we listen and get knowledge from there and that will reflect on what we are saying or talking about.That will help us fellow Malawians before we give a comment, not for the sake of commenting because others are doing so.we must believe on first evidence than second or third evidence.